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Did Any Railroad(s) Build Locomotives for Others

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Posted by Phelps on Monday, February 1, 2016 11:05 PM

I was going to throw in the G-5 and H-10 locos PRR built for LIRR, but you ruled out "parent or subsidiary".  Someone else mentioned the BB-1 electric switchers, but same situation.

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Posted by wobblinwheel on Tuesday, February 2, 2016 12:40 AM

Didn't N&W sell some Y3's to Union Pacific, Virginian, and Pennsylvania?

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Posted by Wizlish on Tuesday, February 2, 2016 5:55 AM

wobblinwheel
Didn't N&W sell some Y3's to Union Pacific, Virginian, and Pennsylvania?

Yes, they did, but I don't think "used locomotives" count here, only those 'new-built' (or specially modified) in a railroad's shops for use on another unrelated system. 

A "borderline" case (I don't think it applies here, but it's an interesting diversion) might be locomotives built new for a system that never used them but sold them straight to another road -- were any of those Chessie 0-8-0s that went to N&W (and were then duplicated a few times in their shops) an example of this?  Bet there were tax implications and consequences that would either make this desirable or undesirable at the time...

I wonder whether there were examples of locomotives built during the WPB years by shops, rather than locomotive builders, for service on 'other railroads' that needed power built to a 'standard' design.  (I don't know of any, but it would be interesting to know if there were any proposed...)

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 2, 2016 5:57 AM

wobblinwheel

Didn't N&W sell some Y3's to Union Pacific, Virginian, and Pennsylvania?

They weren't built for any of those roads, which was the main topic of this thread. The Y3's were sold used, which wasn't very uncommon at all.

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Posted by NorthWest on Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:06 AM

It is sort of borderline for this thread since these are 'rebuilds' though heavily modified, but NS built several RP20CDs for CSX at Juniata.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Tuesday, February 2, 2016 10:05 AM

I believe that the gensets in question were probably built under contract for Railpower Technologies to Railpower's specifications since they did not have their own plant.  This would be comparable to the railcars built for Electro-Motive Corporation by Pullman, St. Louis Car, and others.

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Posted by cefinkjr on Tuesday, February 2, 2016 3:48 PM

Wizlish
I wonder whether there were examples of locomotives built during the WPB years by shops, rather than locomotive builders, for service on 'other railroads' that needed power built to a 'standard' design. (I don't know of any, but it would be interesting to know if there were any proposed...)

That's one of the scenarios I had in mind.

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Posted by carnej1 on Thursday, February 4, 2016 11:23 AM

Wizlish

 

 
wobblinwheel
Didn't N&W sell some Y3's to Union Pacific, Virginian, and Pennsylvania?

 

Yes, they did, but I don't think "used locomotives" count here, only those 'new-built' (or specially modified) in a railroad's shops for use on another unrelated system. 

A "borderline" case (I don't think it applies here, but it's an interesting diversion) might be locomotives built new for a system that never used them but sold them straight to another road -- were any of those Chessie 0-8-0s that went to N&W (and were then duplicated a few times in their shops) an example of this?  Bet there were tax implications and consequences that would either make this desirable or undesirable at the time...

I wonder whether there were examples of locomotives built during the WPB years by shops, rather than locomotive builders, for service on 'other railroads' that needed power built to a 'standard' design.  (I don't know of any, but it would be interesting to know if there were any proposed...)

 

 The C&O switchers did operate for their original owner for a couple of years before being sold to the N&W. The USRA based 0-8-0's were purchased new from Baldwin, rather than being built in-house as N&W later did when it wanted additional copies of the design.

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