hi every one. sorry that i haven,t posted a new thread lately. but the one i am writting to you may help my abscence. as some of you may know. there is talk about norfolk southern and dare i say it. canadian pacific merging. now i am honestly scared of this possible merger. and altough i am 22. i think not just me but allot of people should be. i am scared that if they do merge. everything we have done bring back the 611 the 4501 the 630 the 765. and many others be put on display and dead cold again. because the president of cp has made it clearly to us. HE HATES STEAM. i mean poor 2816 has been in a shed for several years. and he has no intentions of letting her run anytime soon. witch is sad to be honest. i mean we have such a good thing going. can we really afford to let this good thing die!!!!! /???? i would fight to not let that happen. and i bet norfolk southern know,s that the president od the cp hates steam. and will not there engines and thier fans and community become the same way as what he did to the 2816. so what are your guy,s thought on this? am i overeacting? or is there a legit reason to sound the alarm?
Yes, you are overreacting.
A CP buyout (a big IF) would be years away. In the meantime there is zero guarantee that NS will keep doing steam excursions until then. Go out and see them while you can, because all it will take is a quick change of heart to keep those engines off the NS rails.
It's been fun. But it isn't much fun anymore. Signing off for now.
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In nutshell, not in an immediate danger. In the long run, anything can happen, with or without the merger.
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Doc
Don't worry about it happening until it happens, and if it does happen remember the US armed forces are MUCH better prepared to invade Canada than they were in 1812!
What was the war cry then? Oh yes, now I remember...
"FREE TRADE AND SAILORS RIGHTS!"
Biggest worry is the Squires won't see it the way Moorman saw it. If NS doesn't get their operations squared away in the next couple of quarters, all the "goodies" could be toast.
-Don (Random stuff, mostly about trains - what else? http://blerfblog.blogspot.com/)
To Firelock- I resemble that remark! I did see a program about the battle of New Orleans where the Americans were told, "Don't fire until you see the whites of thier eyes!" Trouble was, the enemy was wearing sunglasses. What was the program? Rocky and Bulwinkle.
Remember that Johnny Horton song "Battle of New Orleans?" Almost as good as his "Sink The Bismarck!"
No-one's ever done any songs about the US invasion of Canada in 1812, probably because the boys didn't do so well. As Teddy Roosevelt put it in his history of the War of !812, "It does not make pleasant reading for an American."
What I remember learning about the war of 1812 in school on Long Island when I was a kid was basically, The British were "impressing" American sailors on the high seas, the battle of New Orleans was fought 2 weeks after a treaty was signed, there will be a test on Friday.
54light15 What I remember learning about the war of 1812 in school on Long Island when I was a kid was basically, The British were "impressing" American sailors on the high seas, the battle of New Orleans was fought 2 weeks after a treaty was signed, there will be a test on Friday.
You are overlooking that Washington was attacked by the British and the White House was burned. Then the British attacked Baltimore and were repulsed, Francis Scott Key wrote the "Star Spangled Banner" while being on a British ship and observing the bombardment of Fort McHenry during the battles for Baltimore.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
Balt ACD, I'm just saying what I remember being taught in school 50 years ago. Canadians do make a big deal about burning the White House (it was mostly Canadian troops, but they were considered British at the time as Canada was not a country until 1867.) All depends on who's doing the teaching. Americans learn about Utah and Omaha beach, Canadians learn about Juno beach. Brits I imagine learn about Gold and Sword beaches. One thing I was never taught in the US was that the ships the British were stopping on the high seas were running the British blockade of France. Not to highjack the thread, but it's all about where live depends on what you learn.
So far it's not looking favourable for the merger according to the Toronto papers. NS does seem hostile to it. I can see how the CP would be in favour of it but I don't see much benefit for the NS. I think Harrison rubs them the wrong way.
Actually, there were no Canadians involved in the burning of Washington in 1814. All British personnel involved were British army regulars, with some Royal Navy and Royal Marines thrown in. Ostensibly the burning of Washington's government buildings was in retaliation for the burning of British government buildings in York, Canada (then the capital) in 1812.
Aside from the burning of the US government buildings the discipline of the redcoats was excellent, private property was left alone, with the exception of the premises of a virulent anti-British newspaper. That was thoroughly trashed by the orders of British Rear-Admiral Cockburn.
The American military defense of the area and it's foul-ups that led to the Washington burnings are "Not pleasant reading for an American."
Well, just sayin' that Canadians like to say, "Ha, we burned down the White House!" By the way, York is the old name for Toronto. There's a new brewery called Muddy York as that was it's colloquial name back in the day. Pretty good beer, I must say.
Im sure it's a pretty good beer, I never had a bad Canadian beer!
By the way, do they still make "Trapper" out in Saskatchawan? Man, that brew was the best!
I believe Trapper is done. But here in Toronto, new breweries are opening almost every week. There's two in my neighbourhood that opened since last summer. Getting kind of crazy for me and I'm a beer geek. I just can't keep up with all the new ones. But, that beer won't drink itself.
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