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Paul, right, I forget the T1. The other one I knew was the Western Maryland Potomac. I meant for freight service in first order. Anyway, they were all dual-purpose engines, even the Niagara pulled freight in their last years. Again, stupidy by me, steamlocomotive.com has a fine complete list, do not need another list here. For speeds: The NW J reached 110Mph (with 70" drivers / Sad, never have seen a Brass model of the J unskirted, they looked awsome) under tests with a 11 car consist, I think. I am not aware of recorded speeds of other engines. Generally, the 4-8-4s pulled trains of 1000tons or so, more than the fast Hiawathas. The later ones were also pulled by F7 Hudsons (Alco) with 84"wheels. See GP-40-2 comment, too: 25-26 cars at 80Mph or more? This must be 2000 tons plus somewhat, really impressive.   Lars
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