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Posted by blhanel on Tuesday, January 6, 2009 4:03 PM

Hey Dale, check out this map that an acqaintance found on-line!!!

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Posted by Bergie on Monday, December 1, 2008 1:16 PM

I just fixed it. If you notice that with any of Dale's other Trackside guides, please send me a Private Message and let me know.

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Posted by blhanel on Sunday, November 2, 2008 9:58 PM

First of all, thanks Bergie and your website gurus for fixing the Mississippi River Crossings first post.  Now, could you perform the same resurrection on the first post here?  Looks like the same problem...Smile,Wink, & Grin

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Posted by Los Angeles Rams Guy on Sunday, November 11, 2007 11:33 AM
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 Los Angeles Rams Guy wrote:

No, this baby was a banjo-type signal, I swear.  It was probably removed by '65, '66 or maybe even as late as '67 but it was there on 13th Street.  Wish I'd have been smart enough to have a camera back when I was a tyke.  But what memories I have of the MILW mainline through Marion from the long freights with pigs and autoracks to the Cities streamliners.  And Marion Yard would be CHOKED with all types of cars. 

What used to be and never will be again.Sad [:(]

Can you describe a "banjo-type signal"?  What does it look like?  How does it operate?  I have lived here since 66 and I don't remember anything that I would describe as a "banjo".

The funny thing of it is, the way I recollect it is that I remember these crossing signals on 13th Street looking A LOT like the Lionel Banjo crossing signal (yeah, I know, laugh if you want but that's how I remember it).  It was mostly black, too.  Like I said, the MILW probably replaced these crossing signals by '65 or '66 anyway so it may be extremely difficult to find any photo confirmation for sure.  If anyone out there has something I'd sure LOVE to see it.

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Posted by jeffhergert on Saturday, November 10, 2007 2:16 PM

The official name for a banjo signal is Hall Disc signal.  

If you go to http://mysite.du.edu/~etuttle/rail/sigs.htm and scroll down the page, on the left is a drawing of one.  They were used for early block signals.  There also was crossing signals of this type.  The only picture of crossing signals of this type I have found so far are in the book Train Wrecks by Robert C. Reed.  On page 152, the beginning of the chapter on crossing accidents there is a picture of a railroad crossing equipped with banjo crossing signals.  

I think these are the type that he is referring to.

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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Saturday, November 10, 2007 11:40 AM
 Los Angeles Rams Guy wrote:

No, this baby was a banjo-type signal, I swear.  It was probably removed by '65, '66 or maybe even as late as '67 but it was there on 13th Street.  Wish I'd have been smart enough to have a camera back when I was a tyke.  But what memories I have of the MILW mainline through Marion from the long freights with pigs and autoracks to the Cities streamliners.  And Marion Yard would be CHOKED with all types of cars. 

What used to be and never will be again.Sad [:(]

Can you describe a "banjo-type signal"?  What does it look like?  How does it operate?  I have lived here since 66 and I don't remember anything that I would describe as a "banjo".

Semper Vaporo

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Posted by Los Angeles Rams Guy on Saturday, November 10, 2007 10:50 AM

No, this baby was a banjo-type signal, I swear.  It was probably removed by '65, '66 or maybe even as late as '67 but it was there on 13th Street.  Wish I'd have been smart enough to have a camera back when I was a tyke.  But what memories I have of the MILW mainline through Marion from the long freights with pigs and autoracks to the Cities streamliners.  And Marion Yard would be CHOKED with all types of cars. 

What used to be and never will be again.Sad [:(]

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Posted by blhanel on Friday, November 9, 2007 4:52 PM
That's what I kinda thought it might be, but in my CRS-infected memory I don't recall there being any wig-wags on the MILW line through Marion- of course I didn't arrive on the scene until 1974, and MILW ceased being a high-traffic RR five years later!
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Posted by nanaimo73 on Friday, November 9, 2007 3:57 PM
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Posted by blhanel on Friday, November 9, 2007 7:36 AM
That would have been 13th St.- banjo type?  Can you find a link to a picture?
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Posted by Los Angeles Rams Guy on Thursday, November 8, 2007 11:30 PM

Funny I have not checked out this side of the forums until tonight and found this thread on my home state.  To borrow a quote from Brian Hanel of good ol' Cedar Rapids - "HOLY SH**!" - is right!  FREAKING GREAT WORK, Nanaimo, just freaking awesome!  I'm not sure where to start but I'll take a crack.....

1.  First, the pictures provided at Lansing on "My Mainline" (between River Junction, MN. and Sabula) just simply knocked me out of my chair; especially the shots of MILW 261 doing the street running through town.  Christ, how I WISH I could have caught that.  Of all the shots I have taken between Sabula and St. Paul I have NEVER got anything like that; not even the shot of that DME hospitality train at Clayton.  All I can ask is when will the MILW 261 be making another trip on "my mainline"!?

2.  I was a bit too young to remember Union Station in downtown Cedar Rapids as it was torn down (sadly) sometime in the early 60's.  I was not aware that CNW used Beverly as its station stop in the remaining years of passenger service on the "Overland Route".  But my Dad definitely remembers passenger trains of the CNW stopping there.  And I most vividly remember the Cities streamliners when they were on the Milwaukee Road up until 1971; stopping at Marion on several occasions.  Yeah, without question, Cedar Rapids and Marion really had it "goin' on" at one time.  BTW, as a little kid in the 60's, I can vaguely remember banjo-type crossing signals on the MILW mainline at the crossing just east of the Marion depot (what the heck street is that?).  Anybody else remember that?      

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Posted by blhanel on Sunday, October 21, 2007 12:35 PM
Jeff, you lucky dog you... get any pictures?  It's getting real hard to find the old ROW through there lately.
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Posted by jeffhergert on Friday, October 19, 2007 9:48 PM
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So Dubuque is used for Boston (Field of Dreams), and then Wilmington NC and Clinton SC were used for Cedar Rapids (Sleeping). That means that the Iowa railroad scenes in The Natural were filmed somewhere outside the Hawkeye State. Fredonia, New York???

Several miles south of Iowa City is Riverside, where James T Kirk will be born in 225 years.

The Sleeping with the Enemy town is Cedar Falls.  The author of the book had ties to the University of Northern Iowa up their.

BTW, I got to ride the last west bound Central Iowa Railway train thru Riverside to Kalona.  The line's SW-1 (exBN) and two empty RI 40' box cars.  My father and I were part of a group of volunteers who were trying to reopen the railroad.  The two cars had derailed a few days earlier south of Hills, Iowa.  That derailment was the last straw for the railroad.  Once the cars were loaded (with turkey feathers!) they, the SW-1 and their caboose were taken over to the RI interchange at Hills.  IIRC, the engine went to California and the caboose to South Dakota, or the other way around.  That would've been about 30 years ago now.  Before James T. Kirk's ancestors ever thought of settling there.

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Posted by blhanel on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:05 PM
Heh- been through there several times, they even have a park with a crude scale model of the Enterprise mounted on a pedestal there.
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Posted by nanaimo73 on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 3:54 PM

So Dubuque is used for Boston (Field of Dreams), and then Wilmington NC and Clinton SC were used for Cedar Rapids (Sleeping). That means that the Iowa railroad scenes in The Natural were filmed somewhere outside the Hawkeye State. Fredonia, New York???

Several miles south of Iowa City is Riverside, where James T Kirk will be born in 225 years.

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Posted by blhanel on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 5:26 PM

Hmmm... did alittle search through IMDB's database on that one.  If it's the movie filmed in 1991 with Julia Roberts that you're referring to, it does mention that she moves to a small town in Iowa in the movie, but it was filmed in Abbeyville, SC.  The closest we've come to hosting a movie-making venture around here, IIRC, is for The Final Season, which was just recently released to a few theaters.  It was filmed on-location in Norway, IA, just southwest of us, and is about the last baseball season of their small-town high school team before the district consolidated with another.

We do have a few home-grown actors in the business- Ron Livingston of Office Space and Band Of Brothers fame hails from Marion; in fact, his parents are good friends of ours.  Ashton Kutcher hails from the Amana area, and there are a couple of others that I can't think of their names right now.

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Posted by nanaimo73 on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:15 PM

No, I didn't get over there to Dyersville. Kind of forgot about it. Sigh [sigh]

Didn't make it over to Cedar Rapids/Marion either. I think Sleeping With the Enemy takes place there.

As for living on this Island, W. P. Kinsella (Shoeless Joe) did it for several years. 

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Posted by blhanel on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 10:30 AM

Now that you mention that great line from the movie, did you check out the Field of Dreams on that trip, Dale?  This year was the last one for the "Ghost Players", who annually come out of the corn in left field to entertain visitors.

I bet living on a big island on the Pacific coast can seem like heaven at times as well... 

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Posted by nanaimo73 on Sunday, October 14, 2007 5:17 PM

I really enjoyed the drive I took several years ago down the river from St. Paul to Dubuque. I can't remember stopping in Clayton. Dyersville is not to far from there.

Is this heaven? No, it's Iowa.

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Posted by spokyone on Friday, October 12, 2007 11:17 PM
Dale:
I also say thanks for all your work. This pic is on the ICE, upstream from Dubuque at a settlement called Clayton. Two restaurants, a marina and 25 homes. That's it. We like the Claytonian B&B there. And the benches are great to watch trains and barges. This DM&E hospitality train caught me by surprise. There is only the one grade crossing.
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Posted by billbtrain on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:20 PM

 nanaimo73 wrote:
I'm starting to think it's time for Trains to do an article on Marion and Cedar Rapids.

The Milwaukee Road Historical Society did an excellant two part article on Iowa with one part concentrating on the Cedar Rapids/Marion area.I'll have to look up the issue numbers and dates as I no longer have those issues myself.

Thanks to Brian for pointing out this thread.

Have a good one.

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Posted by blhanel on Thursday, May 25, 2006 9:51 AM
Now that would be a definite keeper... multiple copies, even!
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Posted by nanaimo73 on Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:04 AM
I'm starting to think it's time for Trains to do an article on Marion and Cedar Rapids.
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Posted by Rwulfsberg on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:16 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jeffhergert

QUOTE: Originally posted by nanaimo73

QUOTE: Originally posted by blhanel

If you're referring to the spur that curls north from the right edge, that's still there- not used for much, other than to park an occasional low-priority UP train on, such as this one.
It's my understanding that all of the C&NW passenger trains used that line, so they must have had their station closer to downtown. The Kate Shelly 400 last served your city in October 1957, so that's a passenger spur without passenger trains for almost 50 years. I wonder if Amtrak had started that Chicago-Seattle Pioneer passenger/fast freight train a few years ago where it would have stopped.
QUOTE: That little parking lot on the right center edge of the terraserver picture, just west of the interlocking, is my favorite railfan hangout. Alot of my UP shots are taken from there.
Perhaps they could put a hiking-biking trail on the former Rock Island line on the west side of the river with a bridge over the tracks. That would be a great place for photos.


That CNW passenger line is the remains of the original CNW main line. Once in a while they will stick a Quaker Oats grain train in on the east end (Otis) and send a yard engine down and pull cuts up to the North Yard as needed. At one time, it was also double track.
The present route was built around 1900-1901 time frame and was called the Linn County Railway. You lose about 3.5 miles in mileage. The mileage equation point is at the crossing under US 30 east of Edgewood Road. Where the MILW used to cross.
I believe the CNW used the Union Station that was at 4th Avenue, torn down in early 60s'. Before the end of CNW passenger service, they had moved the Cedar Rapids stop out to Beverly.
Jeff

I'm too young to have ridden passenger service on the CNW from CR, but my mother took it from CR to Marshalltown, both from the Union Station, and, later, from Beverly. I watched many a MILW transfer freight roll by Arthur elementary school.

CR's Union Station sat on what locals call the 4th street tracks. No street running, but sidewalks on either side of the ROW, street signs and businesses with 4th street postal addresses. The depot sat at 4th Avenue, with platforms extending from 3rd to 5th Avenues.

When Union Station was torn down, the CNW moved out to Beverly. The CRI&P built a small cinder-block station under the shadow of the Quaker Oats plant, roughly B Avenue, just north of where the MILW tracks turned eastward. The building was still standing in the 1970's.
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Posted by blhanel on Saturday, May 6, 2006 11:05 PM
Oooo, October '86 focused on the Twin Cities? Hey Jeff, got an extra one of that?[:D]
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Posted by nanaimo73 on Saturday, May 6, 2006 2:47 PM
Good to see you got that issue. I think it will be your favorite by the time you finish reading it.

IMHO, 1986 was when Trains magazine reached it's peak. They are certainly drab compared to todays issues, but they contain 2 or 3 times as much information as the current issues. Other favorites of mine from '86 are the March issue, with the IHB article (and excellent Chicago map), the October Twin Cities issue (another excellent map), and the November issue, with the Motive Power Survey focusing on Soo Line merging the CMSP&P.

The picture of the Gantlet is from 1979, when the Rock was still running. It looks like the north side gaurdrail was torn off of the bridge in a derailment.
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Posted by blhanel on Friday, May 5, 2006 5:55 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by nanaimo73

Hey Brian. I was wondering if I could fini***his before you found it.
I should be done Arpil 25th.
Do you have the April 1986 Trains ? 20 years later and it is still one of the best.



I have it now, thanks to jeffhergert!!! IN MINT CONDITION, TOO!

And that shot of the gantlet bridge sent a shiver up my spine- if it weren't for the trees growing on the embankment to the left, I probably would've opted to get the exact same angle on my shot 20 years later!
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Posted by jeffhergert on Sunday, April 30, 2006 10:38 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by nanaimo73

QUOTE: Originally posted by blhanel

If you're referring to the spur that curls north from the right edge, that's still there- not used for much, other than to park an occasional low-priority UP train on, such as this one.
It's my understanding that all of the C&NW passenger trains used that line, so they must have had their station closer to downtown. The Kate Shelly 400 last served your city in October 1957, so that's a passenger spur without passenger trains for almost 50 years. I wonder if Amtrak had started that Chicago-Seattle Pioneer passenger/fast freight train a few years ago where it would have stopped.
QUOTE: That little parking lot on the right center edge of the terraserver picture, just west of the interlocking, is my favorite railfan hangout. Alot of my UP shots are taken from there.
Perhaps they could put a hiking-biking trail on the former Rock Island line on the west side of the river with a bridge over the tracks. That would be a great place for photos.


That CNW passenger line is the remains of the original CNW main line. Once in a while they will stick a Quaker Oats grain train in on the east end (Otis) and send a yard engine down and pull cuts up to the North Yard as needed. At one time, it was also double track.
The present route was built around 1900-1901 time frame and was called the Linn County Railway. You lose about 3.5 miles in mileage. The mileage equation point is at the crossing under US 30 east of Edgewood Road. Where the MILW used to cross.
I believe the CNW used the Union Station that was at 4th Avenue, torn down in early 60s'. Before the end of CNW passenger service, they had moved the Cedar Rapids stop out to Beverly.
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Posted by blhanel on Saturday, April 29, 2006 3:51 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Murphy Siding

From what I see in Brian's pics, Cedar Rapids has a lot more scenerey. Our landscape consists of bean and corn, corn and beans.[xx(]


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Sure, if you like power poles! And, if I go a few miles east or west, I could get you some shots with beans and corn, or corn and beans!

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