Da Mook has Landed!

[Mookie]

Isn't this just a bite! We just had to run out and buy everything on CD's when they first came out - cuz no one was going to do cassettes anymore. Now you can't play them in the car. Car manufacturers aren't following the norm - They should install CD players and include that in the nominal fee they charge for the car and make the cassettes optional! Am I missing something here?

Jen

[edblysard]

Want to buy a bunch of cassettes, around 200! Everything from Bach to the Beatles?!
When we bought Aimee's Durango, we asked the salesman if we could get a cassette player, he said we could order it with a cassette, or we could have the C/D player removed and a cassette installed. We kept the C/D player.
Stay Frosty,
Ed

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard
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Shoot, I dont think you can even find a new car with a cassette player anymore.
Stay Frosty,
Ed

Ed - Millie is a 2002 Buick Century - she has a cassette player which really shocked me - And we rented a 2003 Acorn (Ford Focus) and it had a cassette player only. I was stumped, cuz I kept looking for the CD player - neither came with one!

We have all CD's and now so what in the car!

Jen

[edblysard]

Want to buy a bunch of cassettes, around 200! Everything from Bach to the Beatles?!
When we bought Aimee's Durango, we asked the salesman if we could get a cassette player, he said we could order it with a cassette, or we could have the C/D player removed and a cassette installed. We kept the C/D player.
Stay Frosty,
Ed

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard
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Shoot, I dont think you can even find a new car with a cassette player anymore.
Stay Frosty,
Ed

Ed - Millie is a 2002 Buick Century - she has a cassette player which really shocked me - And we rented a 2003 Acorn (Ford Focus) and it had a cassette player only. I was stumped, cuz I kept looking for the CD player - neither came with one!

We have all CD's and now so what in the car!

Jen

[zardoz]

Betamax and reel-to-reel? I have one of each also, and they still work !
Got rid of the 8-track a few years ago, though.

Mookie & eolafan, can I join in the "collectors" sale?

[zardoz]

Betamax and reel-to-reel? I have one of each also, and they still work !
Got rid of the 8-track a few years ago, though.

Mookie & eolafan, can I join in the "collectors" sale?

[Modelcar]

.....Yes, that is the model that focuses where you look Ed...You know, I use it infrequently and then when I grab it to do something kinda quick, I find myself just dialing to automatic and letting it do it all....But the eye control does work and if I used it every day I probably would be using that eye control feature more.

And on these new digital's the size of credit cards or a little bigger the results are pretty good....I have a friend who is very knowledgable with the trade and he now has several and the results are really pretty good...and then one can walk right in to the computer and take a look at them if he desires. Or send the photo across the nation in minutes.

On the other subject in the above posts...CD players in vehicles...In many cases they are still an option...Our passenger car has both, but the CD was in an option package.

Gee...I better say something about railroads here or I may not qualify....One thing, I must take the Cannon and head over town this morning as they are installing a new genuine clay tile roof on our Depot [ex C&O], as it is being restored for use as the Trail Head here in Muncie....It will be beautiful when finished in October. 20 miles of paved walking and biking trail here now. It's great. Depot will have a small RR museum in it too...

[Modelcar]

.....Yes, that is the model that focuses where you look Ed...You know, I use it infrequently and then when I grab it to do something kinda quick, I find myself just dialing to automatic and letting it do it all....But the eye control does work and if I used it every day I probably would be using that eye control feature more.

And on these new digital's the size of credit cards or a little bigger the results are pretty good....I have a friend who is very knowledgable with the trade and he now has several and the results are really pretty good...and then one can walk right in to the computer and take a look at them if he desires. Or send the photo across the nation in minutes.

On the other subject in the above posts...CD players in vehicles...In many cases they are still an option...Our passenger car has both, but the CD was in an option package.

Gee...I better say something about railroads here or I may not qualify....One thing, I must take the Cannon and head over town this morning as they are installing a new genuine clay tile roof on our Depot [ex C&O], as it is being restored for use as the Trail Head here in Muncie....It will be beautiful when finished in October. 20 miles of paved walking and biking trail here now. It's great. Depot will have a small RR museum in it too...

[Anonymous]

Oh no, did I say that, now I've gone and shown my age.

[Anonymous]

Oh no, did I say that, now I've gone and shown my age.

[Anonymous]

Don't forget Betamax and reel to reel. lol

[Anonymous]

Don't forget Betamax and reel to reel. lol

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by eolafan

Wow, this thread sure makes one feel old(er) than dirt! What will I do with my old 8-tracks, cassettes and VHS videos now? Jim

[:D] let's get together and have a "collectors" sale - if they can do it with 78's, why not!

Jen

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by eolafan

Wow, this thread sure makes one feel old(er) than dirt! What will I do with my old 8-tracks, cassettes and VHS videos now? Jim

[:D] let's get together and have a "collectors" sale - if they can do it with 78's, why not!

Jen

[eolafan]

Wow, this thread sure makes one feel old(er) than dirt! What will I do with my old 8-tracks, cassettes and VHS videos now? Jim

[eolafan]

Wow, this thread sure makes one feel old(er) than dirt! What will I do with my old 8-tracks, cassettes and VHS videos now? Jim

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard
.
Shoot, I dont think you can even find a new car with a cassette player anymore.
Stay Frosty,
Ed

Ed - Millie is a 2002 Buick Century - she has a cassette player which really shocked me - And we rented a 2003 Acorn (Ford Focus) and it had a cassette player only. I was stumped, cuz I kept looking for the CD player - neither came with one!

We have all CD's and now so what in the car!

Jen

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard
.
Shoot, I dont think you can even find a new car with a cassette player anymore.
Stay Frosty,
Ed

Ed - Millie is a 2002 Buick Century - she has a cassette player which really shocked me - And we rented a 2003 Acorn (Ford Focus) and it had a cassette player only. I was stumped, cuz I kept looking for the CD player - neither came with one!

We have all CD's and now so what in the car!

Jen

[edblysard]

I always like the Olympus cameras, they are light, small, and quite.
But the old Cannon F1 is rugged, I have abused mine for years, never had a problem, and the changable viewfinder is a added plus.
I havent used the new breed of 35mm, but the EOS Elan gets good reviews.
Isnt that the one that focuses where you eye is aimed in the viewfinder?

I had a discussion a year or two ago with a buddy who carries a Cannon with him wherever he goes, his did that, focusing where you looked, but I am not sure of the model. He loved it, sorta like having a spot focus, allowed him to frame the shot, then just look at the spot he wanted the camera to focus, and take the photo.

I think your safe with your film camera for a while, you may have timed it just right, by the time your film camera needs to be replaced with a digital, the cost of them will have come down, and the quality will have gone up.

By the way, the photo I sent you was shot with the freebie fixed focus digital that came with our computer, its smaller than a pack of smokes, and for a freebie, it works rather well.

Stay Frosty,
Ed

[edblysard]

I always like the Olympus cameras, they are light, small, and quite.
But the old Cannon F1 is rugged, I have abused mine for years, never had a problem, and the changable viewfinder is a added plus.
I havent used the new breed of 35mm, but the EOS Elan gets good reviews.
Isnt that the one that focuses where you eye is aimed in the viewfinder?

I had a discussion a year or two ago with a buddy who carries a Cannon with him wherever he goes, his did that, focusing where you looked, but I am not sure of the model. He loved it, sorta like having a spot focus, allowed him to frame the shot, then just look at the spot he wanted the camera to focus, and take the photo.

I think your safe with your film camera for a while, you may have timed it just right, by the time your film camera needs to be replaced with a digital, the cost of them will have come down, and the quality will have gone up.

By the way, the photo I sent you was shot with the freebie fixed focus digital that came with our computer, its smaller than a pack of smokes, and for a freebie, it works rather well.

Stay Frosty,
Ed

[Modelcar]

.....I was refering to throw away camers and what the lens might be on those when the digital capability of it one would think, might supercede the ability of the lens.

The Cannon I have now is a EOS Elan 7e. I traded in an Olympus w/ 4 changable lens. Now with the 28 - 200 zoom my load is lighter. I do have another Olympus that is an automatic camera I've had for a while. I'm amassing too many photos and one starts running out of space...I'm sure we all know about that.

The two photos I sent you a few days ago Ed of the CSX climbing the Allegheny range and the helper engines dropping back down the grade were from the Cannon.

[Modelcar]

.....I was refering to throw away camers and what the lens might be on those when the digital capability of it one would think, might supercede the ability of the lens.

The Cannon I have now is a EOS Elan 7e. I traded in an Olympus w/ 4 changable lens. Now with the 28 - 200 zoom my load is lighter. I do have another Olympus that is an automatic camera I've had for a while. I'm amassing too many photos and one starts running out of space...I'm sure we all know about that.

The two photos I sent you a few days ago Ed of the CSX climbing the Allegheny range and the helper engines dropping back down the grade were from the Cannon.

[edblysard]

Not sure if it was the Brownie, or a earlier model Kodak, but at one time, you purchased a camera pre loaded with film, shot your photos, dropped the camera off at the photography store, and when you returned, you got you developed prints, negatives, and your camera back, re loaded with film, ready to go
Got the idea someone will come up with a cheap way to make the chips or cards, you will buy a pre carded camera, shoot it up, drop it off, and when you pick it up, photos and a re carded camera, or skip the re carding, just wipe the card...
or some service like that.

I doubt that the quality of the lenses will go down, espically on the top line cameras, they still have to gather and focus the light and image well, or your wasting you time.

My Minolta has a 28 to 200mm zoom, with macro, and the program allows you to double the focal length, so I can get the same effect as a 400mm zoom, without the f stop loss.

What Cannon did you buy?
Stay frosty,
Ed

[edblysard]

Not sure if it was the Brownie, or a earlier model Kodak, but at one time, you purchased a camera pre loaded with film, shot your photos, dropped the camera off at the photography store, and when you returned, you got you developed prints, negatives, and your camera back, re loaded with film, ready to go
Got the idea someone will come up with a cheap way to make the chips or cards, you will buy a pre carded camera, shoot it up, drop it off, and when you pick it up, photos and a re carded camera, or skip the re carding, just wipe the card...
or some service like that.

I doubt that the quality of the lenses will go down, espically on the top line cameras, they still have to gather and focus the light and image well, or your wasting you time.

My Minolta has a 28 to 200mm zoom, with macro, and the program allows you to double the focal length, so I can get the same effect as a 400mm zoom, without the f stop loss.

What Cannon did you buy?
Stay frosty,
Ed

[Modelcar]

....All your points well taken Ed...I suppose I'll be ok with the cannon film camera for a while yet..I better be as I have other ones too. I just recently have been using Fuji for color prints...I really think that does a better job of Color saturation, etc...Not that much difference but I believe a noticable difference for me.

And would you believe...after the discussion of throw away digital's in posts above...I just returned from one of our major stores here...[Meijer's], and the first display as I walked in was Kodak's throw away digital [with 27 exp.], for about 9 dollars incl. a CD, if one purchases regular prints at the normal going price....So, Digital is really starting to saturate it all....

[Modelcar]

....All your points well taken Ed...I suppose I'll be ok with the cannon film camera for a while yet..I better be as I have other ones too. I just recently have been using Fuji for color prints...I really think that does a better job of Color saturation, etc...Not that much difference but I believe a noticable difference for me.

And would you believe...after the discussion of throw away digital's in posts above...I just returned from one of our major stores here...[Meijer's], and the first display as I walked in was Kodak's throw away digital [with 27 exp.], for about 9 dollars incl. a CD, if one purchases regular prints at the normal going price....So, Digital is really starting to saturate it all....

[edblysard]

Modelcar,
Big Z is right on the money.
As long as there is a market for film, Fuji, Kodak, and all the others will continue to produce it, but it will become harder to find and more expensive.

I shoot, or did shoot a lot of B/W. Just about cant find the old Tri X film anywhere, at a price I am willing to pay.
Like Zardoz pointed out, try to find Kodachrome.
Three years ago, you could walk into almost any Walmart, K Mart, Eckerds durgs or Walgreens, just about any where, and by it right off the shelf.
Last time I bought some, I had to go to the camera store, cleared out his cooler of
2 1/4, and bought 10 rolls of 35mm, because he only had one case left, and couldnt get a firm ship date from Kodak.
I dont think you will see the print films dissappearing quite as quickly, a lot of money is invested in the print industry, the machines you see in the one hour photo stops are not that cheap, and there is still a big demand for it.
So dont chunk you film camera yet.
If you want to try digital, stay in the $400.00 range, you can get a fairly good view camera for around that.

My choice was easy, I shoot a lot of photos.
A digital single lens reflex works great.
I have a web site where I sell hand crafted writing pens, so taking photos of them on film, then having it transfered to disc so I could post them rapidly, and edit them, was getting expensive.
What I bought would be the equivalent of purchasing a middle of the road Nikon 35mm a few years ago.
It has a zoom, wide angle, and Macro all in one, the digital working allows you to program each for a specific need or use.
Silly thing even has a video recorder in it.

But, if I was going to do train shots, I would stay under $700.00, you can still get a good digital SLR for that, with a build in zoom.

It going to be just like the 8 track to cassette, cassette to C/D revolution, slow at first, but when it really takes hold, it will seem to happen almost overnight.
I must have 100s of cassettes, almost none that I listen to anymore.
Shoot, I dont think you can even find a new car with a cassette player anymore.
Stay Frosty,
Ed

[edblysard]

Modelcar,
Big Z is right on the money.
As long as there is a market for film, Fuji, Kodak, and all the others will continue to produce it, but it will become harder to find and more expensive.

I shoot, or did shoot a lot of B/W. Just about cant find the old Tri X film anywhere, at a price I am willing to pay.
Like Zardoz pointed out, try to find Kodachrome.
Three years ago, you could walk into almost any Walmart, K Mart, Eckerds durgs or Walgreens, just about any where, and by it right off the shelf.
Last time I bought some, I had to go to the camera store, cleared out his cooler of
2 1/4, and bought 10 rolls of 35mm, because he only had one case left, and couldnt get a firm ship date from Kodak.
I dont think you will see the print films dissappearing quite as quickly, a lot of money is invested in the print industry, the machines you see in the one hour photo stops are not that cheap, and there is still a big demand for it.
So dont chunk you film camera yet.
If you want to try digital, stay in the $400.00 range, you can get a fairly good view camera for around that.

My choice was easy, I shoot a lot of photos.
A digital single lens reflex works great.
I have a web site where I sell hand crafted writing pens, so taking photos of them on film, then having it transfered to disc so I could post them rapidly, and edit them, was getting expensive.
What I bought would be the equivalent of purchasing a middle of the road Nikon 35mm a few years ago.
It has a zoom, wide angle, and Macro all in one, the digital working allows you to program each for a specific need or use.
Silly thing even has a video recorder in it.

But, if I was going to do train shots, I would stay under $700.00, you can still get a good digital SLR for that, with a build in zoom.

It going to be just like the 8 track to cassette, cassette to C/D revolution, slow at first, but when it really takes hold, it will seem to happen almost overnight.
I must have 100s of cassettes, almost none that I listen to anymore.
Shoot, I dont think you can even find a new car with a cassette player anymore.
Stay Frosty,
Ed

[Modelcar]

...Yes, I've been thinking about digital and wondering if I would like to purchase one in the near future perhaps I could find one Cannon is producing and that would allow me to use the lens from my present Cannon film camera [maybe],...a 28 to 200mm unit.

[Modelcar]

...Yes, I've been thinking about digital and wondering if I would like to purchase one in the near future perhaps I could find one Cannon is producing and that would allow me to use the lens from my present Cannon film camera [maybe],...a 28 to 200mm unit.

[zardoz]

Modelcar-
I would say you have as long as the camera lasts, or when film becomes almost impossible to purchase or get developed (think Kodachrome). I believe there will be film for quite a few years yet, but digital will become so affordable that when one factors in the cost of film and development, it will soon be cheaper (in the long run) to buy a digital camera body.

I, too, purchased a new camera just two years ago, so I am in the same boat as you are. Although my purchase was one of necessity (my old camera died), it pained me to spend $$$ on a film camera when I knew digital was coming on strong.

But do not worry about being at the mercy of cheap-o equipment. Digital will make quality photography affordable, and there will always be a market for quality equipment.