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BNSF prostrates itself [bow] before the feet of it's Chinese Overlords.

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Posted by arbfbe on Friday, November 18, 2005 2:51 AM
Lotus,

Keep studying those economics there. What you have so far is the micro version of the story but the macro version might just lead you to a different conclusion. A little economic theory can be a dangerous thing. Yes, I did study economics and I did get an A in Labor Economics. I had to pass 4 prerequisites before I could enroll into that class.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 18, 2005 12:30 AM
No Lotus, I don't currently study economy....I'm part of it. I'm paying taxes to fund your education, to arm you with the book knowlege and lack of life experiences so you can chime in on these discussions and speak outta turn. Your welcome! Should't you be chasing girls and wanting fast cars at your age?
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 18, 2005 12:19 AM
I am also a "kid" who can spout off about economics; just what do you know, are you currently studying economics, or government? . Unions do raise the pay of workers, but they also raise the price of the goods they produce. If the Unions cause the wages of workers to go up, the company now has some choices to make, it can A fire some workers and replace their jobs with machines (not what those Union members wanted), it can B raise the price of the goods causing Chinese goods to be cheaper possibly causing said company to go out of bossiness and all Union Workers loose their jobs, or it can C outsource causing all of the Union members to loose their jobs.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 18, 2005 12:08 AM
Lotus, again, you are just a kid cockin' off about things you don't know squat about....such as unions. You have stated that you intend to hire out with the RR.....wrong profession if you hate unions, bud. If you do ever hire out and by some chance work with me, I know a certain little boy who will be doin alot of riding on the second unit and a bunch of handbrake tyin'. As I have said before, when you get out of Mom and Dad's sanctuary and join the ranks of the workin' man your opinion may change. That is unless you wanna tie handbrakes and be my (or someone like me) little mule for 8.00 an hour. Maybe you should look into a career at Wal-Mart if the Unions suck so bad. You won't have to worry about a pesky decent wage or those silly benefits that those stupid unions fight for. Why don't you tell us how many presidential elections you have cast a vote in or how much in federal tax was witheld in 2004 from your pay?
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:21 PM
i like BNSF , but they are just a company trying to make a profit however it's too bad that most stuff is made overseas.
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Posted by samfp1943 on Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:17 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jeaton

Hmmm, one would think that a company would use its monopoly profits to invest in projects that would produce more business that makes monopoly profits.

The greenback is now MONOPOLY money!! And at the rate we are going the Chinese will need to learn to "Habla" before they can say Wal-Mart twice fast.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:09 PM
futuremodal -

I don't know how to break this to you gently, my friend, but BNSF isn't in business to provide jobs for folks who don't care about anything but their take-home pay.

If you want to know how come we don't export more to other countries, look at GM, for example. They pay more for health benefits to their union members and retirees than the gross national product of several third world countries.

BNSF is in business to make money, which, if you haven't been paying attention, isn't all that easy to do for railroads, nowadays.

Sounds like you'd rather be part of the problem than part of the solution.

Good luck.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:06 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jeaton

Lotus098

You really ought to stop putting on headphones and listening to tapes of Rush Limbaugh while you sleep. It will cause your brain to atrophy... from left to right.
So that's why it's called the fastest three hours in media. [:D][zzz] At least I hear both sides of the story.[;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:06 PM
I say let BNSF spend all theirs and everybody elses money to the point of receivership, then let Wick and his horse cavalry at NS go west and save the day with the Southern Strategy.
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Posted by dharmon on Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:50 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jeaton

Lotus098

You really ought to stop putting on headphones and listening to tapes of Rush Limbaugh while you sleep. It will cause your brain to atrophy... from left to right.


Jay.......Somebody's been reading the "Turner Diaries" again before bed......
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Posted by dharmon on Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:48 PM
A company that big must have a HUGE postrate....like a tunnel!
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Posted by Murphy Siding on Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:35 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jeaton

Hmmm, one would think that a company would use its monopoly profits to invest in projects that would produce more business that makes monopoly profits.


Certainly, there would be no reason to use logic on a thread like this? Do-Da!Do-Da!

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Posted by jeaton on Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:32 PM
Hmmm, one would think that a company would use its monopoly profits to invest in projects that would produce more business that makes monopoly profits.

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Posted by jeaton on Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:25 PM
Lotus098

You really ought to stop putting on headphones and listening to tapes of Rush Limbaugh while you sleep. It will cause your brain to atrophy... from left to right.

"We have met the enemy and he is us." Pogo Possum "We have met the anemone... and he is Russ." Bucky Katt "Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future." Niels Bohr, Nobel laureate in physics

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Posted by joegreen on Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:02 PM
I'm glad I'll be working on the RR in a few years...........then my job wont go overseas.

Where do I go to invest in BNSF[^]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:55 PM
Well, I for one, am sick of kowtowing to a bunch of communist thugs. The Govenator (that’s Arnie for those of you in Rio Linda) shouldn't be going over there unless it is to kick some rear end. If you want to stop outsourcing, lower the taxes and stop the Unions. (Got me a hunch this will lead to trouble)


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Posted by edblysard on Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:52 PM
Me too!

Wait, that means I have to go to England to buy my tennis shoes...and my cars, and food, and clothes, and coffee pot, and .....

Holy Crap, Danman....they took over the world while we slept!

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Posted by dharmon on Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:46 PM
THATS IT!

I'm not buying anything shipped on BNSF!

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:39 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Murphy Siding

Does that banjo play any other song? * futuremodal hates BNSF...do-da...*


Ever hear a preacher admoni***o "hate the sin, love the sinner"?

Well, when dealing with amoral corporations, the proper attitude is "hate the sin, make no emotional commitment one way or the other to a corporation." Doesn't quite have that bumper sticker quality to it, but it'll work here.
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Posted by selector on Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:27 PM
All I see in that rant is leftist dogma boiling up to the surface in a vat of vitriol. [zzz]

Do you run a business that employs people who feed families?
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:17 PM
Modal, i feel that your a little out there. That said....I read the same story and cringed. I work for them too!!!!! We are just as bad as Wal-Mart. Hard working Americans out of work because lazy housewives love Wal Mart..........Doublestacks full-o-sh*it. I hate it!
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Posted by Murphy Siding on Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:07 PM
Does that banjo play any other song? * futuremodal hates BNSF...do-da...*

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BNSF prostrates itself [bow] before the feet of it's Chinese Overlords.
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:04 PM
Latest BNSF *pr* report (from ProgressiveRailroading.com)....

http://www.progressiverailroading.com/freightnews/article.asp?id=7867

Quote (?) from BNSF Group Vice President-Consumer Products Steve Branscum at a recent ocean shipping conference in Ningbo, China, "BNSF serves all major U.S. West and Gulf Coast ports, and is the country’s largest intermodal carrier — attributes that make the railroad an ideal transportation partner for Chinese and other Asian shippers."

The article goes on to point out that BNSF is adding capacity and purchasing more double stack cars - which is another way of stating the obvious, namely BNSF uses it's profits from US captive shippers to make it that much more easier to bring in cheap Chinese imports. It should be noted the article makes no mention of BNSF making any investments into improving the export potential of US goods - 'cause they ain't!

Anyone still want to argue that BNSF isn't predicated to aiding Chinese and other Asian manufacturers to the detriment of US manufacturers and our own hard working union members? Didn't think so.[^]

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