Be sure to watch the video. There is no evidence of heavy brake application on the locomotive -- I'd have expected at least blued wheels as in some of the other grade-related accidents.
Strange that iron ore would be moving in aluminum hoppers. NOT saying that any 'fire' would be associated with that combination.
Will be interesting to find out where the crew left the cab.
Judging by the state of the tank on the lead locomotive, much of the 'fire' might have been diesel fuel assisted -- and the 'small leak' left for hazmat crews to clean up might represent whatever residual fuel remained in the broken tank.
CSSHEGEWISCH The so-called "charred" metal really isn't. A lot of it seems to be bare or rusted metal. Whoever was the writer isn't aware of the kinetic energy involved in a runaway on a steep grade.
The so-called "charred" metal really isn't. A lot of it seems to be bare or rusted metal. Whoever was the writer isn't aware of the kinetic energy involved in a runaway on a steep grade.
Thanks!
ns145- Indeed 2.2% grade would be an issue; but that info was not available and I used the visual depictions provided
diningcar It appears the curvature is moderate - 2 degrees or less. Grade does not seem to be a factor either.
It appears the curvature is moderate - 2 degrees or less. Grade does not seem to be a factor either.
2.2% grade not a factor? Most definitely it was. Cima Hill has a history of runaways.
https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/RAR9801.pdf
Reading467Rhetorical Q: How does metal get 'charred' if there was no fire, only a small fuel leak from the locos?
That's what I can't figure out, how does iron ore catch fire? Those pictures though, what a mess!
From the article, last sentence: "No fires or injuries were reported related to the incident, and fire officials say there is no current threat to the public or the environment."
But yet the photo captions state: "Aerial photos show heaps of charred, mangled metal from the train derailment. March 27, 2023 (Viewer photo)"
Rhetorical Q: How does metal get 'charred' if there was no fire, only a small fuel leak from the locos?
Pulling this out of the Chatterbox
MikeF90 Surprised no one has mentioned the massive derailment near Kelso CA on the UP Cima sub. By estimation the long iron ore train was going WAY over max track speed and wound up as a crumpled wreck: https://ktla.com/news/local-news/hazmat-crews-respond-to-train-derailment-near-baker/amp/ Amazing the crew jumped and survived.
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/hazmat-crews-respond-to-train-derailment-near-baker/amp/
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