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Posted by NittanyLion on Tuesday, March 21, 2023 12:24 PM

I've seen them on other passenger equipment and some subway cars too.  For instance, at least one series of DC Metro cars has them.  They're not door indicator lights because they'll stay lit after the doors are closed and don't go out until the brakes are released.

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Posted by Tim56 on Sunday, March 19, 2023 8:05 AM

Yes, the green, yellow & red by the doors

 

 

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Posted by 7j43k on Friday, March 17, 2023 10:37 AM

For the indicators on the side of the car, near the door:

green indicates brakes released

yellow indicates brakes applied

IF there's a red, it indicates emergency application.

 

Superliners apparently don't have the red.

 

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, March 16, 2023 8:45 PM

jeffhergert
Older streamlined passenger cars had little plungers that popped out when the brakes were set.  It's to aid during stationary brake tests, as would lights in place of the plungers.  These cars have disc brakes and need some other kind of indicator to verify that the brakes have applied and released.

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Inspecting disc brake application - to actually see the pads contacting the rotor would require some level of a contortionist to look between the wheels.  Which leads to the question - is disc brake pad inspection/replacement normally performed with the inspection personnel in a below track pit?

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Posted by jeffhergert on Thursday, March 16, 2023 5:48 PM

Older streamlined passenger cars had little plungers that popped out when the brakes were set.  It's to aid during stationary brake tests, as would lights in place of the plungers.  These cars have disc brakes and need some other kind of indicator to verify that the brakes have applied and released.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, March 16, 2023 1:51 PM

Metra's gallery coaches have the red lights, but strictly as door indicators.  The multiple indicators on Amfleet sound more like the lights on the side of CTA's rapid transit cars.

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Posted by Overmod on Thursday, March 16, 2023 1:32 PM

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always thought those were for the doors.

As did I, right from my first exposure to Amfleet... without asking.  (It seemed so obvious what they were for, and what the yellow and green lights meant.)

I don't remember now who set me straight, but I think it was on this forum.

(I still am amused that the 'beeper' for the open doors was sourced from the same place that made the McDonalds 'fries are ready' signal ... made me salivate a bit every time I heard it...)

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Thursday, March 16, 2023 1:20 PM

The question is, when did they install turn signals?  Wink

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Posted by rdamon on Thursday, March 16, 2023 12:17 PM

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Those aren't brake lights - they are end of train (EOT) indicators. It's a pretty standard rule that passenger trains must display an illumunated red marker on the end of the train (unless the train is trailed by a locomotive, in which case it can be a headlight on dim).

Not sure how long that rule has been in place generally, but its been in the NORAC rule book at least since I started in 2006.

 

 

 

I don't think he's refering to EOTs.  Many Amtrak cars have red and green lights on the side.  The red light illuminate when the brakes are set and the green illuminate when they are released.  I think it is so the conductor can look down the side of the train and see that all of the brakes have released before departing.  You can see them on some of the cars in this video: https://youtu.be/g4syD9KKadY?t=344

 

I always thought those were for the doors.

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Posted by CSX Robert on Thursday, March 16, 2023 12:10 PM

adkrr64

Those aren't brake lights - they are end of train (EOT) indicators. It's a pretty standard rule that passenger trains must display an illumunated red marker on the end of the train (unless the train is trailed by a locomotive, in which case it can be a headlight on dim).

Not sure how long that rule has been in place generally, but its been in the NORAC rule book at least since I started in 2006.

 

I don't think he's refering to EOTs.  Many Amtrak cars have red and green lights on the side.  The red light illuminate when the brakes are set and the green illuminate when they are released.  I think it is so the conductor can look down the side of the train and see that all of the brakes have released before departing.  You can see them on some of the cars in this video: https://youtu.be/g4syD9KKadY?t=344

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Posted by MarknLisa on Thursday, March 16, 2023 12:01 PM

Tim56

When did Amtrak install the brake light indicators on their passenger cars?

Thanks

 

Are you referring to the lights near the doors on SuperLiners?

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Posted by adkrr64 on Thursday, March 16, 2023 11:57 AM

Those aren't brake lights - they are end of train (EOT) indicators. It's a pretty standard rule that passenger trains must display an illumunated red marker on the end of the train (unless the train is trailed by a locomotive, in which case it can be a headlight on dim).

Not sure how long that rule has been in place generally, but its been in the NORAC rule book at least since I started in 2006.

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Posted by timz on Thursday, March 16, 2023 11:27 AM

They've never installed them on any car, have they? Just bought cars that have them?

The first Amfleet cars must have had them -- probably the Metroliner MUs too?

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Amtrak Brake Light indicators
Posted by Tim56 on Thursday, March 16, 2023 10:42 AM

When did Amtrak install the brake light indicators on their passenger cars?

Thanks

Tim

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