CSSHEGEWISCH Until the manufacturers agree on specs that allow for a relatively quick exchange of batteries, electric cars will be tied to their home base due to the length of time required for recharging.
Until the manufacturers agree on specs that allow for a relatively quick exchange of batteries, electric cars will be tied to their home base due to the length of time required for recharging.
alphasThe President today said the USA was going through an "incredible transition" away from fossil fules. That sounds to me what is now happening and going to happen with gas, oil, diesel, and heating oil fits in with his plans. I suspect he intends to carry out his intentions no matter what happens.
The "incredible transition" is going to be for everybody to do with less.
Tesla don't make farm equipment. Or construction equipment. Or aircraft.
That was the cause of that fire in Morris IL a while back. A company that was going to redo car battery packs along with other lithium battery packs. Well 25 tons of their inventory decided that it needed to go up in flames. RPS better have one hell of a good legal team especially in CA as that place will need it.
Flintlock76does anyone know what the plans are for dealing with worn-out electric car batteries?
Flintlock76Speaking of which, does anyone know what the plans are for dealing with worn-out electric car batteries? Can they be recycled or are they likely to end up in landfills?
One of many unacknowledged elephants in the room...
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CSSHEGEWISCHUntil the manufacturers agree on specs that allow for a relatively quick exchange of batteries
Speaking of which, does anyone know what the plans are for dealing with worn-out electric car batteries? Can they be recycled or are they likely to end up in landfills?
I'm asking seriously by the way, I'm not trying to be a wise-guy.
40k will get you a used one right now. New is around 55k. Then you need a better charging system at your home for another 3 to 5 grand. Your looking at well over a grand a month for a car payment. Sorry most lower middle class people can't afford that. Rents are higher than ever. A 3 bedroom around here is over a grand a month.
This should tell you how bad it's getting. My boss was just bought out not for his customer base but for the fact he has fuel hedged for it was 4 years but the oil company has screamed force majorue and made it 2 years locked in prices. He got bought out for that reason alone for 50 percent more than the carrier was worth we think as he swore he'd never sell for less than that. Some place out of Canada bought us and another Illinois bulk hauler called A&R and merged us into Quantix.
tree68How's that electric car looking?
Probably not so good.
Folks that don't like paying $4.50 to $5.00 for a gallon of gas aren't likely to believe the solution to the problem is $40,000 electric car.
The President today said the USA was going through an "incredible transition" away from fossil fules. That sounds to me what is now happening and going to happen with gas, oil, diesel, and heating oil fits in with his plans. I suspect he intends to carry out his intentions no matter what happens.
I also suspect his border policy is also intentional based upon what my friends (two in Border Patrol and one in Customs) have been telling me.
I can't believe he doesn't realize all the pain this is going to cause those that are less than rich in the USA but apparently he is determined in what he wants to accomplish.
tree68 Gramp The one reason I'd like to see oil/gas demand dry up. To see OPEC fall apart. As I recall, we weren't buying anything from OPEC not too long ago. How's that electric car looking?
Gramp The one reason I'd like to see oil/gas demand dry up. To see OPEC fall apart.
The one reason I'd like to see oil/gas demand dry up. To see OPEC fall apart.
As I recall, we weren't buying anything from OPEC not too long ago.
How's that electric car looking?
Won't see me buying one. We *are* looking at going with one vehicle this coming September.
I can tell you this much from my industry view. We're approaching a breaking point on fuel prices that well let's just say that if it gets much worse this nation may see the collapse of the entire OTR industry. Even with fuel surcharges the increase in prices is faster than our customers pay for the freight delivery services. I'm hearing rumors of major lines heading for bankruptcy in a hurry places that have been in business for decades. Companies like Heartland Werner US Xpress Covenant and other large 1000 plus truck fleets are having massive problems. If they're having issues it's 20x worse for the smaller guys that are the bread and butter of this industry.
Petroleum markets manipulated? Surely you jest!
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Flintlock76Buying into a business isn't a good idea unless you understand how it works. Delta most likely found out owning a refinery wasn't the advantage they thought it was going to be.
Delta most likely found out owning a refinery wasn't the advantage they thought it was going to be.
Truth in this statement. Business owners learned the hard way to focus on what they know best. Even within an industry sucessful businesses focus their efforts on specific products and markets.
The only way owning a refinery might be beneficial is if the market is being manipulated but despite conspiracy theories to the contrary, no one has ever found this to be the case at a systemic level. The cost and disruption of owning something outside your area of expertise far outweighs the limited benefits.
SD70Dude jeffhergert Back in the steam era, some railroads owned their own coal companies to supply their needs. Even thought they don't own it outright, doesn't Amtrak still have its own dedicated hydroelectric plant to supply the Northeast Corridor?
jeffhergert Back in the steam era, some railroads owned their own coal companies to supply their needs.
Back in the steam era, some railroads owned their own coal companies to supply their needs.
Even thought they don't own it outright, doesn't Amtrak still have its own dedicated hydroelectric plant to supply the Northeast Corridor?
Unless they sold it, they have the ex-PRR generating station near Safe Harbor, PA, and they had the transmission lines. They also buy commercial power, and phase-convert it to 25 cycle.
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jeffhergertBack in the steam era, some railroads owned their own coal companies to supply their needs. Jeff
They were forced to divest their coal mines if they sold to the public
"However, in 1906, with the support of the Roosevelt Administration, the Hepburn Act was passed. This required all railroads to disinvest themselves of all mining properties and operations, and so the Reading Company was forced to sell the P&R Coal and Iron Company"
Gramp Does the increase in diesel fuel price increase rail's competitiveness? Do any of the railroads have ownership of a refinery and/or oil producing land?
Does the increase in diesel fuel price increase rail's competitiveness?
Do any of the railroads have ownership of a refinery and/or oil producing land?
Delta Air lines owns its own refinery to make jet fuel. It is in a Philadelphia suburb.
That is the only major transportation company that owns its own refinery for petroleum products.
As to the rising cost of diesel fuel, railroads are able to charge a fuel surcharge to customers. Since rail is about 4 times more efficient in the use of diesel per ton mile than tricks, it may be possible that even with the surcharge, if diesel keeps rising there may be some modest shift to rail for some freight.
But for time sensitive freight and freight that needs relatively prompt dock-to-dock service, rail is likely to never be a choice regardless of the fuel price.
Talk about heavy reading!! The Honorable Justice could have benefited from a rhetoric class on transitions, clarity and conciseness.
EnzoampsAm I just loopy, or did that exist. If so where/when did it go?
Flintlock76Interesting Zug! Care to make any recomendations?
Sonic 2 (only if you saw 1), The Bad Guys, and Bob's Burgers is the one later this month. Yes, there's a trend.
It's been fun. But it isn't much fun anymore. Signing off for now.
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zugmann Flintlock76 As far as movies that appeal to mature men, forget it! No-one makes them anymore, or so it seems. There's better stuff on YouTube. I saw 2 this month. And prob a 3rd later this month/next.
Flintlock76 As far as movies that appeal to mature men, forget it! No-one makes them anymore, or so it seems. There's better stuff on YouTube.
I saw 2 this month. And prob a 3rd later this month/next.
Interesting Zug! Care to make any recomendations?
Flintlock76As far as movies that appeal to mature men, forget it! No-one makes them anymore, or so it seems. There's better stuff on YouTube.
BaltACDAnd these days for a variety of reasons - movie theaters are rapidly dying.
One of the reasons is most movies made nowadays just plain suck. The last movie I saw was "1917," and that should tell you something. The wife's a big movie junkie and there's nothing she wants to see either.
As far as movies that appeal to mature men, forget it! No-one makes them anymore, or so it seems.
There's better stuff on YouTube.
BaltACD Flintlock76 MidlandMike horizontal monopoly The first thing that sprung to my mind was the big movie studios that once owned their own network of theaters. They were ordered to divest those holdings I think in the 1950's. And these days for a variety of reasons - movie theaters are rapidly dying. Covid being the most recent excuse, but that is just one of many over the years.
Flintlock76 MidlandMike horizontal monopoly The first thing that sprung to my mind was the big movie studios that once owned their own network of theaters. They were ordered to divest those holdings I think in the 1950's.
MidlandMike horizontal monopoly
The first thing that sprung to my mind was the big movie studios that once owned their own network of theaters. They were ordered to divest those holdings I think in the 1950's.
And these days for a variety of reasons - movie theaters are rapidly dying. Covid being the most recent excuse, but that is just one of many over the years.
Almost all the independent theaters around here are gone. There's still a few here and there. There's even one or two drive-in theaters left in Iowa. And a new one recently opened near Fremont NE.
I believe one reason many of the independents have closed is because of the cost to update to digital projectors for the modern movie formats.
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zugmannIMO some movies just need that theater experience. Although I do like to go a weekday the week or 2 after premier. Sometimes you can get an unofficial private showing. I do enjoy the pre-purchased, assigned stadium seating of the current theaters, though.
Although I do like to go a weekday the week or 2 after premier. Sometimes you can get an unofficial private showing. I do enjoy the pre-purchased, assigned stadium seating of the current theaters, though.
There are some - but they are few and far between.
Recall 'Cast Away' in 2000 with Tom Hanks and the plane crash scene - at a theater with surround sound cranked up to 11 it made you FEEL the scene.
When I was in Jacksonville there was a local $1 theater - I would go on a off night if something way playing that caught my interest. It closed about 2005. Just before Covid hit I went to a theater in the county seat for 'Ford vs. Ferrari'. Covid closed it and I don't know if it has reopened yet.
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