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Posted by zugmann on Monday, May 9, 2022 11:55 PM

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IMO this getting in and out of yards is a red herring.

Huh? 

And how are more car inspectors going to make a difference in yarding a train?

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Monday, May 9, 2022 11:52 PM

IMO this getting in and out of yards is a red herring.  PSR has allowed for not enough yard enployees to gets the trains out,  Hire enough car knockers, hostlers, and portable air compressors to do the class 1 brake tests so as soon as road crew shows the train can leave.  Road crew does not spend so much time getting train ready and that sometimes alone will enable crew to finish run and not go HOS on the law. 

More car knockes will allow train to get in yard quicker and be broken up quicker also saving T&E on duty times.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Monday, May 9, 2022 9:42 PM

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Isn't that true for most every big business?

 

You'd think so, although one major retailer doesn't seem to be getting the message that not everyone likes to self-checkout.

It's been well demonstrated that if you don't take care of your customers, they'll find someone who will.  

It was William Henry Vanderbilt, however, who famously stated, "the public be damned..."

 

I have no problem with self-checkout at a grocery store. To me, it's no different than self-serive at a gas station. It's also a lot more efficient than having some non-attentive high school girl boop my groceries past the scanner while dissing her employer and flirting with the bag boy. Plus, when I boop a 48 oz. box of Cheerios and they come up at 48 cents, I don't get all freaky-deaky about it. Mischief

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Posted by dpeltier on Monday, May 9, 2022 8:16 AM

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Despite the title of the thread, this video shows Chairman Oberman talking about Trip Optimizer, not car metering. Two totally different things.

I was not watching the hearings, but I seem to recall reading that there were several witnesses who testified to the effect that a.) the time to get over the road wasn't the problem, just the time to get in and out of yards, and b.) CSX (?) tried removing throttle restrictions in some places as an experiment and found it made no difference in throughput. If those things are true, it's really hard to see how turning off Trip Optimizer would provide the kind of immediate capacity benefit that Oberman is looking for.

Car metering, on the other hand, IS something that can provide the immediate, system-wide benefit that Oberman is looking for. Reducing car inventories (to a point) increases system throughput by reducing congestion, just like the ramp monitoring we use on freeways here in the Twin Cities (see https://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/publications/fhwahop14020/sec1.htm).

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Posted by tree68 on Sunday, May 8, 2022 8:10 PM

Murphy Siding
Isn't that true for most every big business?

You'd think so, although one major retailer doesn't seem to be getting the message that not everyone likes to self-checkout.

It's been well demonstrated that if you don't take care of your customers, they'll find someone who will.  

It was William Henry Vanderbilt, however, who famously stated, "the public be damned..."

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Posted by Convicted One on Sunday, May 8, 2022 6:38 PM

Murphy Siding
Isn't that true for most every big business?

 

Hey!! I was just mocking any supposition that "fair play" might intercede, so isn't "mocking my mock" similar to a double negative?  Wink

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Sunday, May 8, 2022 6:29 PM

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I guess their response might be "Hey, we no more run our railroad for the benefit of consumers than we do for the towns we pass through" ?

 

Isn't that true for most every big business?

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Posted by Convicted One on Sunday, May 8, 2022 6:20 PM

I guess their response might be "Hey, we no more run our railroad for the benefit of consumers than we do for the towns we pass through" ?

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Posted by BaltACD on Sunday, May 8, 2022 7:28 AM

PSR doesn't want to add employees it wants to cut them.  Time to cut the Bean Counters - think they know the cost of everything and they know value of nothing, especially a fully functional operation.

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STB comments on metering of cars.....
Posted by CMStPnP on Sunday, May 8, 2022 4:58 AM

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