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Montana Rail Link to be dissolved?
Posted by Leo_Ames on Monday, January 10, 2022 6:00 PM

According to the Montana Rail Link e-mail group on groups.io, it's said that Montana Rail Link plans to return the railroad to BNSF and has applied for STB approval. Sounds quite real and the news seems to be getting confirmed by multiple MRL employees (Edit: I mistakenly first attributed the information to the Loconotes e-mail group).

Doesn't sound like significant changes are expected for employees and operations. I imagine the biggest change past the disappearance of MRL blue will be a quick retirement for their remaining GP9's, GP35's, and 567 powered switchers.

While it was always expected that BNSF one day would retake control, I think conventional wisdom was that it would happen long down the road when the 60 year lease expires in 2047. That it's happening decades prematurely is quite a surprise and seems to be a mystery.

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Posted by MidlandMike on Monday, January 10, 2022 6:43 PM

Could it be that they think it's a cheaper alternative than double tracking the ex-GN ?

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Posted by rdamon on Monday, January 10, 2022 7:18 PM

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Posted by n012944 on Monday, January 10, 2022 7:22 PM

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Posted by Leo_Ames on Monday, January 10, 2022 8:05 PM

With MRL set to disappear, does anyone know if this July 2020 roster data is still correct for their locomotive fleet today?

SW9 - 1 unit (16)

SW1200 - 2 units (13 & 17)

GP9 - 8 units (109, 113, 118, 123, 127, 130-132)

GP35 - 6 units (401-406)

GP40 - 1 unit (500)

SD40-2XR - 16 units (250-265)

SDP40-2XR - 1 unit (290)

SD45M - 1 unit (351)

SD45-2M - 3 units (346, 355, & 382)

SD70ACe - 29 units (4300-4319; 4400-4408)

 

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Posted by Michael Vomvolakis on Monday, January 10, 2022 8:14 PM

Ok. Montana Rail Link. Here’s my analysis. 

 

BN leased the line in 1987 for a number of reasons. These include but are not limited to:

 

  • Mullan Pass was very expensive to operate compared to Marias Pass.
  • Montana heavily taxes railroads.
  • The Montana portion of Burlington Northern had a heavy degree of union influence.
  • After the Frisco merger, the only lines BN focused on were those that carried Power River Coal to the detriment of the rest of the railroad.

 

One thing to point out is MRL’s structure. The construction of the Northern Pacific was funded using government-issued bonds which are not scheduled to be paid off until 2047. The NP or its successors are not allowed to sell any part of the railroad whose construction was financed using those bonds, so the MRL mainline is leased not owned. The branchlines, having been built using private capital much later, are owned. Most thought that when those bonds were finally paid off in 2047, MRL would either buy it's mainline outright or sell to BNSF. So this came as quite a surprise to everyone.

 

Now of course why would MRL sell and BNSF buy now?

 

For one thing, Dennis Washington, owner of MRL, is 87 years old. He might want to cash out on his railroad so he can spend his remaining years in relaxing splendor. MRL is extremely profitable. While we don’t have exact figures, we can be sure it generates a profit of over $500 million. We know this because back in 2020 MRL had the STB raise the Class I profitability threshold from $500 million to $900 million. MRL easily fetches a price of $2-$5 billion. 

 

BNSF can easily afford MRL. Mr. Buffet is BNSF’s owner after all and he could easily afford to buy the entire railroad industry and have plenty left over. Now, despite having sold the railroad, BN/BNSF never truly packed up and left. They kept haulage right to facilitate the movement of trains from the Upper Midwest to the Pacific Northwest. Anything that can’t go over the ex-GN line though Northern Montana goes via MRL. The number of BNSF haulage rights trains has steadily increased over the years and now they account for the vast vast vast majority of trains polishing MRL rails. BNSF sends between 25 and 30 trains a day over MRL.

 

Taking back control of MRL also makes sense when you put today’s stressed supply chains into view. BNSF now fully controls one of its key mainlines. Having to stop and “change railroad” so to speak will always slow down travel time and make it harder to grow traffic. It’s why railroads stress single-line service as much as possible.

 

So in conclusion, Mr. Washington realized that MRL wasn’t what it used to be and could snatch a pretty penny from Mr. Buffet, who was willing to buy, and the two made a deal.

 

Can’t say I'm surprised.

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Posted by kgbw49 on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 7:59 AM

It would be interesting to see what ton-miles were on MRL in 1987 when BN decided the trackage was "excess to their needs" versus what they are today.

On a related note, I would suspect ton-miles on the former GN main line are higher today than they were in 1987 when BN thought they could handle all Northwest-Upper Midwest traffic on just the GN mainline.

BNSF has also been developing traffic between the Northwest and Texas in the last several years utilizing the former Fort Worth & Denver and CB&Q up to Montana and then former NP over to Washington.

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Posted by MidlandMike on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 6:49 PM

How was the lease structured?  Did MRL pay an up-front price, or rent?  Didn't BN have contingencies for a take back?  Did they have first right of refusal, and some guard-rails on re-acquisition price?

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 7:50 PM

To me - it soulds like the culmination of the original agreement that created the MRL as a way of setting it up as a 'short line' and thus break the existing labor agreements that were in effect on the territory prior to the establishment of the MRL.  I have no fear that the MRL was a 'union busting' play.

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Posted by jeffhergert on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 8:24 PM

I would guess the reason is probably along the lines of Washington wanting to to cash out.  The talk about improving/removing interchange really isn't a big deal.  The haulage rights trains MRL handled wouldn't go through the interchange process.  Only originating or terminating traffic on MRL would be truly interchanged.

That MRL was receiving most of it's revenue from the haulage rights trains isn't new, either.  They've been gauranteed so much overhead traffic.  Clearly, without the overhead business MRL would never have been as big as it was.  It would've been like other regionals living off on-line traffic.  Admittedly, it sounds like the on-line business may not have been what it once was. 

There are some details missing.  In some ways it sounds like MRL is liquidating it's non leased assets and returning the leased ones to BNSF.  Yet, other details make it sound like BNSF is absorbing the company as a separate entity.  Details such as being able to keep MRL employees and it sounds like at MRL wage rates, work rules and benefits.  (Could keeping an MRL entity in their pocket mean they might try and use it as a vehicle to bypass union negotiations on crew consists?  Remember years ago when they wanted to go to engineer and conductor crews and threatened to lease the Chicago to Seattle main line to the Winona Bridge Railway Company?)  MRL train and yard crews are represented by the BLE&T.  The BNSF has BLE&T for enginemen, SMART (formerly UTU) for trainmen.  My understanding is that the Northern Lines of BNSF (I believe that includes all of the pre Frisco BN.) have system seniority on the trainmen's side.  SFbrkmn, feel free to jump in and correct anything I'm mistaken on. 

Interesting times ahead.

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Posted by dpeltier on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 9:41 PM

jeffhergert

I would guess the reason is probably along the lines of Washington wanting to to cash out.  The talk about improving/removing interchange really isn't a big deal.  The haulage rights trains MRL handled wouldn't go through the interchange process.  Only originating or terminating traffic on MRL would be truly interchanged.

I don't have any inside information, but my bet is that you're correct: Washington was ready to cash out and the railroad is worth more to BNSF than to anyone else.

The haulage rights work OK, but having direct control makes it a lot easier to work the line into the long-term strategic plan. It's always awkward for either party to make major investments in improving a property that is under a long-term lease, and operationally there's a big difference between calculating the cost and benefits of a change versus having to negotiate those costs and benefits with another party.

When I first started in the BNSF Engineering Services department, the hot topic was a potential PNW export coal play, and we were planning a whole host of capacity improvements to support that traffic. I spent several months kicking off design work on siding extensions up and down the line from Laurel (Billings) to Shelby via Great Falls (and, in one case, trying to negotiate a private crossing relocation with a government entity).

As best I can recall, we hit a snag on one of the projects, and we reported up the chain of command that we would probably not be able to deliver the improvement in the expected year. The word came back down: No problem, we're canceling all those projects anyways. We finally reached an agreement with the MRL for the additional trains so we'll just send them that way.

And then, of course, in the end the export facility couldn't get permits, markets changed, and the whole opportunity disappeared.

That was my first lesson in the extraordinarily high mortality rate of railroad capacity projects, especially on lines and facilities that are not particularly strategic. It was also the first of many times where we had to invest a lot of planning effort into a growth opportunity that didn't pan out. (The Bakken crude-by-rail phenomenon occasionally felt like a dog that likes to chase cars and finally catches one...)

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Posted by Shadow the Cats owner on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 7:40 AM

I read on another site that the founder of the Washington group and the MRL is now 87 years old.  He is a widower as his wife died before him and more than likely just wants to enjoy the rest of his time and this way will make sure his little piece of history will still live on.  He proved to the BN and now BNSF that it is needed to their network so they will not be tearing up the tracks.  He gets paid very well his employees all get to keep working for their new owners and the best part is he made a trainload of money in his deal that he can spread around now.  

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Posted by Ulrich on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 7:52 AM

Possibly a pre-emptive purchase by BNSF. The last thing BNSF would want is a sale of MRL to CN or CP. 

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Posted by NP Eddie on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 11:43 AM

After the architects of the 1970 merger retired, new non railroad management came on board and sold or short lined a few lines. About 20 years later present management realized the foolish moves. One example was the X CBQ line from Soo City to O Neil and it was taken back years later.

The MRL move was a fiasco and the BN was sorry they signed the agreement before the ink was dry on the contract.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 12:26 PM

Ulrich

Possibly a pre-emptive purchase by BNSF. The last thing BNSF would want is a sale of MRL to CN or CP. 

 

I thought MRL was connected to BNSF at both ends and most of their traffic came from BNSF. That seems like it would be an unlikley purchase by any other railroad.

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Posted by ns145 on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 1:07 PM

Murphy Siding

 

 
Ulrich

Possibly a pre-emptive purchase by BNSF. The last thing BNSF would want is a sale of MRL to CN or CP. 

 

 

 

I thought MRL was connected to BNSF at both ends and most of their traffic came from BNSF. That seems like it would be an unlikley purchase by any other railroad.

 

 

That and BNSF already owns the mainline track MRL operates.  Also, I would suspect that BN/BNSF had first right of refusal to purchase MRL and/or the ability to quash any hostile acquisition.

MRL has always been a neat operation, but it is a monument to the short-sighted thinking of BN in the 1980's.  Part of the reason behind BN's acquisition/merger with the Santa Fe was getting a real CEO to run the railroad - Rob Krebs.  Krebs is the one that tried to get the MRL lines back in the late 1990's.  He saw how stupid a move that was.  However, as my dad likes to say, some things are easier to get into than out of.

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Posted by Ulrich on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 2:11 PM

Murphy Siding

 

 
Ulrich

Possibly a pre-emptive purchase by BNSF. The last thing BNSF would want is a sale of MRL to CN or CP. 

 

 

 

I thought MRL was connected to BNSF at both ends and most of their traffic came from BNSF. That seems like it would be an unlikley purchase by any other railroad.

 

 

 

Unlikely.. but what if BNSF wasn't interested? Then it becomes more likely.. 

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 3:30 PM

Ulrich

 

 
Murphy Siding

 

 
Ulrich

Possibly a pre-emptive purchase by BNSF. The last thing BNSF would want is a sale of MRL to CN or CP. 

 

 

 

I thought MRL was connected to BNSF at both ends and most of their traffic came from BNSF. That seems like it would be an unlikley purchase by any other railroad.

 

 

 

 

 

Unlikely.. but what if BNSF wasn't interested? Then it becomes more likely.. 

 

I dunno. If BNSF wasn't interested and they were the main traffic source, why would anybody else be interested?

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Posted by Ulrich on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 3:45 PM

Murphy Siding

 

 
Ulrich

 

 
Murphy Siding

 

 
Ulrich

Possibly a pre-emptive purchase by BNSF. The last thing BNSF would want is a sale of MRL to CN or CP. 

 

 

 

I thought MRL was connected to BNSF at both ends and most of their traffic came from BNSF. That seems like it would be an unlikley purchase by any other railroad.

 

 

 

 

 

Unlikely.. but what if BNSF wasn't interested? Then it becomes more likely.. 

 

 

 

I dunno. If BNSF wasn't interested and they were the main traffic source, why would anybody else be interested?

 

 

A profitable bridgeline operation with connections and on line growth potential was good enough for Denis Washington all these years and would be good enough for me as well. Likely MRL could have found another buyer were BNSF not interested.. 

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Posted by YoHo1975 on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 3:56 PM

As already stated multiple times, BNSF OWNS the track. MRL just had a lease. So MRL doesn't have any track to sell. CN or CP could buy the company and BNSF could likely immediately terminate the lease. 

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Posted by DJMF on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 4:03 PM

And I was just getting used to the Wisconsin Central being gone.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 4:15 PM

Ulrich

 

 
Murphy Siding

 

 
Ulrich

 

 
Murphy Siding

 

 
Ulrich

Possibly a pre-emptive purchase by BNSF. The last thing BNSF would want is a sale of MRL to CN or CP. 

 

 

 

I thought MRL was connected to BNSF at both ends and most of their traffic came from BNSF. That seems like it would be an unlikley purchase by any other railroad.

 

 

 

 

 

Unlikely.. but what if BNSF wasn't interested? Then it becomes more likely.. 

 

 

 

I dunno. If BNSF wasn't interested and they were the main traffic source, why would anybody else be interested?

 

 

 

 

A profitable bridgeline operation with connections and on line growth potential was good enough for Denis Washington all these years and would be good enough for me as well. Likely MRL could have found another buyer were BNSF not interested.. 

 

Unless I'm seeing it wrong, BNSF controls how much traffic goes over the line and thus, how profitable the line is or isn't. If you're a competing Class 1, are you still interested?

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Posted by SD60MAC9500 on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 4:28 PM

Ulrich

Possibly a pre-emptive purchase by BNSF. The last thing BNSF would want is a sale of MRL to CN or CP. 

 

CN or CP don't have a physical connection. The traffic was bridge traffic for BNSF with very little originating and terminating traffic. This line is owned by BNSF. CN and CP aren't even a factor here... Nor would anybody else be...

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Posted by Ulrich on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 4:48 PM

Well, more power to Warren Buffett then.. MRL did quite well with no track of their own and mostly bridgeline traffic. I guess the party had to stop at some point. 

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Posted by CatFoodFlambe on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 5:28 PM

I have absolutly NO knowledge of the terms of the lease - but could MRL have been sold to interests other than BNSF which could have ransomed the BNSF overhead operation to extort a higher price?   There are certainly financial entities out there who are capable of doing so.   

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Posted by Backshop on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 7:44 PM

CatFoodFlambe

I have absolutly NO knowledge of the terms of the lease - but could MRL have been sold to interests other than BNSF which could have ransomed the BNSF overhead operation to extort a higher price?   There are certainly financial entities out there who are capable of doing so.   

 

Maybe if it was just BNFE but not when you're dealing with the entire might of Berkshire Hathaway.  They'd squash anyone who tried.  While Warren Buffett has the public persona of being a nice guy, he didn't get where he is because he is...

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Posted by rdamon on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 8:04 PM

I would be suprised if BN did not have some sort of "First Right of Refusal" for any pending sale. 

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Posted by MidlandMike on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 9:09 PM

Murphy Siding
I thought MRL was connected to BNSF at both ends and most of their traffic came from BNSF. That seems like it would be an unlikley purchase by any other railroad.

UP connects at Sandpoint, ID, and continues to Portland and thence Seattle.  UP also connects in the middle of MRL at Butte.  To the east of MRL, there was the ex-MILW which was owned at one time by the State of SD and a shortline thru MN to Minneapolis where the UP connects to Chicago.  However, BN bought out the SD link, so the line is no longer continuous.

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Posted by Leo_Ames on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 9:11 PM

BNSF and BN before it always wanted it back. Was originally done as I understand it as a union busting scheme with the thought being that MRL wouldn't make a go at it and Burlington Northern could soon have their way (The same era as their Winona Bridge scheme that I think one of you already made reference to). Yet MRL very much made a go at it despite some early violence.

The surprise here isn't that BNSF is getting it since that's always been the foregone conclusion. The surprise is that MRL is closing up before the lease expires in 2047 (Millionaires don't typically just liquidate successful assets in their old age, so I suspect there's more to this story). It's been the widely held view for decades that MRL would survive until then, with little hope of getting a lease extension at that time with the result being that BNSF gets their mainline back under in-house control. 

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Posted by YoHo1975 on Thursday, January 13, 2022 2:03 AM

Do note also that MRL's traffic base when it took over in the 80s is not the same as it's traffic base now. It didn't used to be "All Bridge Traffic" that is a relatively recent change. 

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