There's always tethering your self-propelled mower so it winds itself up on a stake...
Of course, farmers are now using GPS when seeding, and other such functions.
Larry Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date Come ride the rails with me! There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it...
The church next to one of our feed mills has a couple robotic lawnmowers. Always get a kick seeing them out and about at 3am running around.
You were just ahead of your time.
Kind of like how Swanson's was the original Ubereats.
It's been fun. But it isn't much fun anymore. Signing off for now.
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When I was a kid my dad, my brother, and I patented a self driving lawnmower. We had a prototype built, and it worked like a charm. That was 40 plus years ago. Unfortunately it wasn't commercially viable.. And so it is with alot of technology.. it may work somewhat (or very well) but if the economics don't make sense it goes nowhere.
Overmod Euclid All of the changes are on the locomotives. Even if this were so -- and it is not -- it doesn't take a whit away from the point zug was making. Assuming you actually read what he said, and understood it.
Euclid All of the changes are on the locomotives.
Even if this were so -- and it is not -- it doesn't take a whit away from the point zug was making. Assuming you actually read what he said, and understood it.
Euc - you forget under PSR any maintenance is too much for the financial model.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
EuclidAll of the changes are on the locomotives.
Saw a Nova episode on Britain's Crossrail (Elizabeth Line) project. 13 years and 25 billion. Quite a segment on the software system problems encountered including autonomous movements. On Amazon Prime and PBS.
zugmann rdamon A full investment in automation should include an electric trainline with speed and temperature sensors on each axle, electric brakes. Make the car individually addressable so the computer can lock out on any high temp or brake issue. Another benefit is they can put some LED lights on the side to help with people driving into the train at a dark crossing. To run anything udner any guise of automation, you are going to have to spend big money on maintaining stuff. Not exactly the expert field of many companies anymore. RR or not.
rdamon A full investment in automation should include an electric trainline with speed and temperature sensors on each axle, electric brakes. Make the car individually addressable so the computer can lock out on any high temp or brake issue. Another benefit is they can put some LED lights on the side to help with people driving into the train at a dark crossing.
To run anything udner any guise of automation, you are going to have to spend big money on maintaining stuff. Not exactly the expert field of many companies anymore. RR or not.
Adding autonomous running will cost a lot of money, but it would not necessarily include that currently popular push for adding sensors to everything imaginable on the train. It also does not have to include changing to ECP brakes. All of the changes are on the locomotives.
Isn't it really a case of trying to be too efficient? Squeezing the last trace of what's possible out of people and equipment. Why can't the goal be to be unquestionably reliable?
rdamonA full investment in automation should include an electric trainline with speed and temperature sensors on each axle, electric brakes. Make the car individually addressable so the computer can lock out on any high temp or brake issue. Another benefit is they can put some LED lights on the side to help with people driving into the train at a dark crossing.
'cause that stuff is going to last more than 3 hours once it gets to an industry or shortline.
I don't think most people have ever seen how many industries handle their cars. Hell hath no fury as a trackmobile, forklift, or front end loader..
BaltACD Movement ultimately has accidents. No matter, who, where, what or when. Thats why many older folks wear DEPENDS.
Movement ultimately has accidents. No matter, who, where, what or when.
Thats why many older folks wear DEPENDS.
tree68 charlie hebdo Those responses to this are much akin to saying "s***" happens" aka let's not do anything because we have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo, i.e. saving jobs versus saving lives. Methinks it's more like discounting any claims that autonomous operation will be safer. This incident likely would have occurred if there was a five person crew. Absent more defect detectors (one halfway between the others might have caught the problem), this was a failure that may not have been caught by better maintenance. Many defects remain hidden, until they aren't.
charlie hebdo Those responses to this are much akin to saying "s***" happens" aka let's not do anything because we have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo, i.e. saving jobs versus saving lives.
Methinks it's more like discounting any claims that autonomous operation will be safer. This incident likely would have occurred if there was a five person crew.
Absent more defect detectors (one halfway between the others might have caught the problem), this was a failure that may not have been caught by better maintenance. Many defects remain hidden, until they aren't.
Discounting without any empirical evidence while this accident is vivid evidence of serious malfeasance in the whole system. The move to larger, much heavier railcars and monster trains generated more profits at the expense of more equipment and track failures.
charlie hebdoThose responses to this are much akin to saying "s***" happens" aka let's not do anything because we have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo, i.e. saving jobs versus saving lives.
A full investment in automation should include an electric trainline with speed and temperature sensors on each axle, electric brakes. Make the car individually addressable so the computer can lock out on any high temp or brake issue.
Another benefit is they can put some LED lights on the side to help with people driving into the train at a dark crossing.
Those responses to this are much akin to saying "s***" happens" aka let's not do anything because we have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo, i.e. saving jobs versus saving lives. Same old stuff concerning crossings, equipment, accounting etc. Reminiscent of the worse tragedies in Decatur, eastern Canada, etc
CSSHEGEWISCH charlie hebdo The recent and serious NS derailment once again exposed the fallacy of superiority of human crews. Also shows rails to be dangerous neighbors to have.
charlie hebdo The recent and serious NS derailment once again exposed the fallacy of superiority of human crews. Also shows rails to be dangerous neighbors to have.
The recent and serious NS derailment once again exposed the fallacy of superiority of human crews. Also shows rails to be dangerous neighbors to have.
Pipeline opponents continue to require us to move huge amounts of oil by rail.
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Erik_MagMy wife's car has a very nice camera for the "rearview mirroe" and backing up assistance. Even though it's facing backwards, it still require cleaning on a regular basis.
No damage to my truck, and minimal damage to her bumper.
I would imagine that the bird poop incident is making some designers look at the design to see if it can somehow be improved.
But remember the Pinto...
Erik_Mag Shadow the Cats owner Well one of those automonus trucks was taken offline by a bird. Why am I not surprised? Looks like the designer didn't think of various things that go splat on windshields. Which also implies that the people trying to design an autonomous truck need a lot more real world experience. Pretty much the same thing goes for autonomous trains. My wife's car has a very nice camera for the "rearview mirroe" and backing up assistance. Even though it's facing backwards, it still require cleaning on a regular basis.
Shadow the Cats owner Well one of those automonus trucks was taken offline by a bird.
Well one of those automonus trucks was taken offline by a bird.
Why am I not surprised? Looks like the designer didn't think of various things that go splat on windshields. Which also implies that the people trying to design an autonomous truck need a lot more real world experience. Pretty much the same thing goes for autonomous trains.
My wife's car has a very nice camera for the "rearview mirroe" and backing up assistance. Even though it's facing backwards, it still require cleaning on a regular basis.
Like anything else - the Devil is in the details and there are more details than can be thought of - until the detail hits.
Well one of those automonus trucks was taken offline by a bird. The bird dropped off a present that hit the camera covering it with poop and the truck literally shutdown in the middle of the interstate and even the guy monitoring it inside couldn't get it to move.
I was suprised that PTC did not include some sort of overhead or between the rails beacon to identify track at CPs
Whatever it is, it is going to cost BIG bucks, especially when you consider that something that will be this sensitive is going to have to hold up in a hostile environment.
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