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Posted by blue streak 1 on Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:52 PM

BaltACD

I don't know if CSX will complete their installations by the December 31, 2018 deadline or not. 

BALT--------  Any hint what will happen if the CSX takeover happens ?  Could be a quick reduction in costs comes from posponing PTC installations ?  Get the money and run and leave to consequences to future management ? 

Could or would FRA step in in time ?

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Posted by BaltACD on Sunday, February 26, 2017 7:09 PM

blue streak 1
It just continues---  Caltrain cancelling contract since vendor making no progress.  Maybe its time to go back to an enhanched ATC with cab signals ?  With the termoil coming to CSX and the possibility of CSX PTC being short funded what is going to happen nationally ?

http://www.caltrain.com/Page4861.aspx

When I retired, CSX had PTC operating on 28 subdivisions - roughly 1/4 of the subdivisions it is intended to be installed on.  A number of other subdivisions were to be made active during the 1st quarter of 2017 and each succeeding quarter.  Note while it is installed and functioning, all the installations are in real world test mode so the pit falls of it's operation can be documented and rectified from both a hardware and software stand point.

I don't know if CSX will complete their installations by the December 31, 2018 deadline or not.  They are couching their public communications as if they will need a waiver - to my mind that is only posturing for a worst case scenario which is not really expected.  Better to say you will need more time and then not need it than to say everything will be done On Time and then have to back track when it is not.

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Posted by JL Chicago on Sunday, February 26, 2017 6:57 PM
The Utah UTA Frontrunner uses an enhanced ATC cab signal system with positive zero speed enforcement at red signals. It's a remarkably simple yet effective system. Google front runner rule book uta for a PDF. Towards the end describes the system.
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Posted by Firelock76 on Sunday, February 26, 2017 6:10 PM

I wondered why PTC when ATC technology has been around for decades, has been proven, and it works.

Oh well, this is what comes from panic legislation.  Maybe the next time something (anything) nasty happens the solons will stop, take a deep breath, and think long and hard before doing anything, that is if anything can be done or is really needed to be done.

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Another PTC flop
Posted by blue streak 1 on Sunday, February 26, 2017 6:02 PM

It just continues---  Caltrain cancelling contract since vendor making no progress.  Maybe its time to go back to an enhanched ATC with cab signals ?  With the termoil coming to CSX and the possibility of CSX PTC being short funded what is going to happen nationally ?

http://www.caltrain.com/Page4861.aspx

 

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