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Posted by JoeKoh on Tuesday, September 6, 2016 2:29 PM

afternoon

work busy.will get buisier once they get a replacement part.Ns and contractors were out in the siding and at the RR crossing uptown.They haven't tore the pavement up yet but will be coming soon.Chores to do.

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Posted by BOB WITHORN on Wednesday, September 7, 2016 6:15 AM
Ok, I'm in Flint, Mi., "The Home of Lead Pipes", IT's September and at 6 AM it was 75 degrees, not fair.
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Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, September 7, 2016 7:16 AM

BOB WITHORN
Ok, I'm in Flint, Mi., "The Home of Lead Pipes", IT's September and at 6 AM it was 75 degrees, not fair.
 

We have company from around the middle of CA - and our temp was about 95 yesterday, with our usual humidity.  Driver & I didn't think it was too bad overall, but they were very uncomfortable.  They were having trouble enjoying the visit, since we were outside quite a bit.  Going home tomorrow - too bad, will be in the 70's next week.  Mischief

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, September 7, 2016 8:17 AM

Our overnight low was 78; we might hit 90 today if the thunderstorms don't squelch it.  I think we're rooting for the storms.  My walking in yesterday's heat (which was interrupted by a brief shower) totaled over four miles.

Today I don't expect to stray too far from home until later; I have a snail-mail package of freight car history reports to prepare (and a letter to write).  I also have to call my surgeon and have a CT scan result explained to me.  Instead of using big words that mean something only to medical people, they should say stuff like "yucky things than need to come out of there".

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Posted by Deggesty on Wednesday, September 7, 2016 10:46 AM

Carl, perhaps you should find an educated doctor? Smile Mine explain the matters to me, using simple words such as "a," "an," and "the."

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, September 7, 2016 10:51 AM

CShaveRR
Instead of using big words that mean something only to medical people, they should say stuff like "yucky things than need to come out of there".

Maybe your framis is out of phase with your divariable fribersitcher, which will involve adjustments to your Johnson rod...

Seriously, hope you get the answers you want and need.

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Posted by JoeKoh on Wednesday, September 7, 2016 4:36 PM

evening

very warm today.work still busy.still waiting for a part.Big bosses are getting cranky.Supper than chores to do.

stay safe

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Wednesday, September 7, 2016 6:12 PM

CSX had a derailment last night ( time unknown ) after teenager walked in front of freight on a road with no sidewalk.  Crossing has bells, lights , and gates..   Happened on the CSX Lineville sub that runs from LaGrange Ga and Brmingham.  Happened in city of LaGrange at the Vernon road crossing  Train was a westbound mixed freight.  Normal speed limits are 20 - 30 MPH.

Had a doctors appointment nearby and witnessed the aftermath this morning.  Two AC locomotives stopped about 300 feet west of Vernon road crossing.  For whatever reason some train cars jack knifed south to outside of the curve ( crossing is curved and has super elevation.  As well tracks intercept road at about 30 - 45 degree angle. ) Several cars on their side on both sides of track including a spilled lumber car to south. Some Lumber in road   Interesting that two Procor DOT-111 tank cars remained upright west of crossing but do not know if they stayed on rails.  Another item is that there is  a equipment detector on south side of track but was not touched although cars overturned both east and west of bungalow. Unknown if track detectors were torn up,

Crossing damage was complee with removal of all rail, ties, asphalt and some ballast.  Quite a crew there and as an aside part of a crossing renewal crew that was working on the A&WP sub about 15 miles away was called  to the scene. 

Have to wonder if the rear of train pushed cars off track tearing up track and crossing ?

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, September 7, 2016 10:12 PM

Meanwhile, here in the north country, we're getting some much needed rain - hopefully not too quickly, though.  We're up to a half inch already, with more to come.

I feel for the crew - we just had a trespasser hit near here at oh-dark-thirty in the morning, a great distance from the nearest crossing.   I've had some pretty good starts from larger wildlife (deer, bear) when running.  I can't imagine seeing a person in my way - or maybe I don't want to.

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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, September 7, 2016 10:45 PM

tree68

Meanwhile, here in the north country, we're getting some much needed rain - hopefully not too quickly, though.  We're up to a half inch already, with more to come.

I feel for the crew - we just had a trespasser hit near here at oh-dark-thirty in the morning, a great distance from the nearest crossing.   I've had some pretty good starts from larger wildlife (deer, bear) when running.  I can't imagine seeing a person in my way - or maybe I don't want to. 

Not to be a Debbie Downer, but is isn't a matter of if, it's only a matter of when.

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, September 8, 2016 6:33 AM

BaltACD
Not to be a Debbie Downer, but is isn't a matter of if, it's only a matter of when.

Don't think I don't know that...

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Posted by JoeKoh on Thursday, September 8, 2016 7:22 PM

evening

work still busy.got the part for a machine.Computers were slow today.Took care of yardwork in town and at home.Csx sent a westbound frieght and an empty salad shooter.(up powered train and reefer cars q 91).Also was meet the new neighbors.Lady and 4 little ones.They are moving in this weekend.Tomorrow is Friday.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, September 8, 2016 7:59 PM

Headed home from RR HQ and picking up the materials for a train show this weekend when I spotted leaves in the road.  This usually means that wind (or something) blew them there.  Moments later, the local FD was toned out for trees and wires down, so I went back and checked out that site.

The two were definitely related - looked like it was a tiny microburst - the wind path couldn't have been 20 yards wide, but it took down a number of trees and a garage over a quarter mile or so.  Took some pictures and sent them to NWS.  Got mentioned ("trained observer...") in their tweets about the incident.

Power was out in the area, too...

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Friday, September 9, 2016 4:41 AM

Tree:  Those microbursts can be airplane killers.  The very nature of them being so small make detection from air difficult.  Reaction time to save the day must be less than a second if airplane close to ground. 

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Posted by tree68 on Friday, September 9, 2016 6:35 AM

blue streak 1

Tree:  Those microbursts can be airplane killers.  The very nature of them being so small make detection from air difficult.  Reaction time to save the day must be less than a second if airplane close to ground. 

For sure.  I was amazed at how tiny it was, width-wise.  Usually one might expect a broader front. It would be a "slam-dunk" for a small plane.

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Posted by JoeKoh on Friday, September 9, 2016 4:33 PM

evening

work still busy.Matt was closed due to fog this morning.Going to work tomorrow morning.Mother nature is sending rain our way.We'll see how much we get.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by tree68 on Friday, September 9, 2016 8:54 PM

Booth for local train show all set up.  Hopefully they get some good crowds.  And my voice lasts...

Sunday I'll have to speak at the 9/11 memorial ceremony.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Saturday, September 10, 2016 6:54 AM

tree68
 
blue streak 1

Tree:  Those microbursts can be airplane killers.  The very nature of them being so small make detection from air difficult.  Reaction time to save the day must be less than a second if airplane close to ground. 

 

For sure.  I was amazed at how tiny it was, width-wise.  Usually one might expect a broader front. It would be a "slam-dunk" for a small plane.

 
I remember a similar situation which showed how incredibly localized a microburst can be.  Several years ago, a microburst struck an apartment building in Bridgeview (near 79th & Harlem) and basically removed the roof.  Other buildings in the complex were not seriously damaged except for that caused by flying debris.
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Posted by JoeKoh on Saturday, September 10, 2016 12:36 PM

afternoon

work done.Dodged some raindrops.Was able to see 3 NS trains in Archbold. One used a crossover then the other 2 went on their way.Going to work on things here at home.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by JoeKoh on Monday, September 12, 2016 3:12 PM

afternoon

Ns local was busy uptown when I left work.Work not so busy today.Chores to do.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, September 12, 2016 6:55 PM

Phone company finished moving their cables off a pole across the street.  Power did so last week.  Now a local authority has to move their fiber line, and the cable people have to move their stuff, and the pole can come out.

And that will mean the highway people can finish rebuilding the intersection.  Yay!

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, September 12, 2016 11:14 PM

tree68

Phone company finished moving their cables off a pole across the street.  Power did so last week.  Now a local authority has to move their fiber line, and the cable people have to move their stuff, and the pole can come out.

And that will mean the highway people can finish rebuilding the intersection.  Yay! 

And people wonder why it costs so much to make highway (railroad to) changes - and we are only talking about a pole line.  When changes are needed underground, the costs rise exponentially.

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Posted by BOB WITHORN on Tuesday, September 13, 2016 5:41 AM

So, who decided that replacing traffic lights with those round traffic circles things was such a wonderful idea? They work great until rush hour. Try VanDyke and 18 mile in Sterling Hts, (north side of Detroit), between 5 and 6 pm. When the busy side get there you can't get through until they are gone.  You are forced to go look for trains until it clears.

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, September 13, 2016 6:30 AM

BOB WITHORN
So, who decided that replacing traffic lights with those round traffic circles things was such a wonderful idea? They work great until rush hour. Try VanDyke and 18 mile in Sterling Hts, (north side of Detroit), between 5 and 6 pm. When the busy side get there you can't get through until they are gone.  You are forced to go look for trains until it clears.

Sheboygan, WI - 3 traffic circles with 1/2 mile

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, September 13, 2016 6:46 AM

While I was in MI this summer I took a back way to get from point A to point B and found a traffic circle rather in the middle of nowhere...

Of course, there is always the "Michigan left turn..."

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Posted by samfp1943 on Tuesday, September 13, 2016 7:28 AM

tree68

While I was in MI this summer I took a back way to get from point A to point B and found a traffic circle rather in the middle of nowhere...

Of course, there is always the "Michigan left turn..."

 

  tree68;

                   "Michigan Left turn" (?)  Is that anything like the New Jersey 'Turn Right to go Left'....THAT took some getting used to ! Sigh

Or the 'Massachuttes Stop'- essentially, 'No Stop' . it amounts to a game of 'Intersection Chicken'...   The folks in St. Louis are also practitioners of a similar move, but they seem to operate wilth a higher level of testosterone, in its' application. Whistling  SHEEEESH! Mischief

                       

 

 


 

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, September 13, 2016 7:32 AM

samfp1943
"Michigan Left turn" (?)  Is that anything like the New Jersey 'Turn Right to go Left'....THAT took some getting used to ! 

Sounds similar:Michigan Left

There isn't always a stoplight at the U-turn, though - most I've seen/used just have a stop sign.

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Posted by BOB WITHORN on Tuesday, September 13, 2016 7:50 AM

A Michigan Left gets to be a lot of fun when you're trying to go left but have to go thru, make a 180 then cross 4 + lanes of stop and go traffic in a hundered yards or so and then turn right to go left.

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Posted by Deggesty on Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:45 AM

BOB WITHORN

A Michigan Left gets to be a lot of fun when you're trying to go left but have to go thru, make a 180 then cross 4 + lanes of stop and go traffic in a hundered yards or so and then turn right to go left.

 

when I was driving ( I do not do that anymore), I would avoid such intersections if I could. There are some here which have you turn right and then make a U-turn to complete your left turn. Either way, it takes longer to make a left turn than before--though traffic that does not turn left moves faster.

There  are some intersections that have a looong left turn lane which does make it easier to turn left--once the left turn light is on. I also tried to avoid such as those. Such can be confusing to someone who is not familiar with them and wants to turn right directly into the cross traffic's left turn lane. Please do not ask me to diagram such an intersection--to get into the left turn lane, you cross the ongoing traffic lane (there is traffic light protection for those who want to turn left there)--some such do not permit a right turn on red (in general, unless there is a sign prohibting it, a right turn on red is allowed).

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Posted by CShaveRR on Tuesday, September 13, 2016 2:25 PM

Yes, those are Michigan lefts.  I once thought I saw an advantage to them while thinking about it, but that has since been lost to me.  And in my old neck of the woods, there are some streets where you have no choice--They've eliminated the cross street completely between lanes!  To go straight across, you turn right, make the left U, then turn right again.

Rotaries used to frustrate me, too, but I've seen the [lack of] light on a few of those (the few that have a single-lane circle, or at most two):  once you're in a circle, you own the entire block to the point where you wish to get off it.  Everyone yields to you as long as you're in the circle.


I haven't been onfor long because I'm back in the hospital since last Friday, with a post-surgical infection.  That infection has apparently been successfully taken care of, but I was left far weaker than I had been with the original surgery.  The worst thing now is no respiratory endurance--I can't even go to the bathroom here without oygen.  I'm hoping I'll be stronger tomorrow.

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