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Union Pacific walking away from SP trackage rights on BNSF?

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Posted by kgbw49 on Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:43 PM

Isn't the old C&A to KC now Kansas City Southern? Not 100% sure but I think so. Can anybody confirm or correct?

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Posted by MidlandMike on Tuesday, May 24, 2016 8:13 PM

The Kansas City line of the C&A (which branched off the Chicago-St Louis line) was spun off, and is now owned by KCS.  However, UP owns the CHI-STL line.

http://www.kcsouthern.com/en-us/why-choose-kcs/network-map

 

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Posted by MemphisBlue on Tuesday, May 24, 2016 9:43 PM

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UP now has a large intermodal facility in Elwood (global 4) on the former C&A and its my understanding that they are planning for an increase in IM traffic to that facility when the Panama Canal expansion brings the container traffic to the Gulf coast. Does anyone know what, if any, traffic goes by the old C&A route to/from KC?

 

 

The main Z train pair is the ZG4CI and ZCIG4, CI being City of Industry in the LA basin.  They also run a Z train from to from Tuscon and Santa Teresa, NM (El Paso) although not generally on the same days.  A couple of K and I trains to/from Long Beach carrying marine containers and I think that's it.  Not sure if they all go via the Chili sub or if some may go through St. Louis.  

UP is still using the Yard Center facility for a lot of the Mexican traffic. 

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Posted by D.Carleton on Wednesday, May 25, 2016 1:13 PM

kgbw49

Isn't the old C&A to KC now Kansas City Southern? Not 100% sure but I think so. Can anybody confirm or correct?

It seems to me that, in the fire sale that was the Chicago, Missouri & Western, SP had tried to acquire the line to Kansas City but was outbid by KCS. They later obtained the trackage rights over the former ATSF.

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