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Posted by NKP guy on Sunday, October 11, 2015 10:30 AM

Murphy Siding:    You might be very interested to read what President Truman wrote about Dwight Eisenhower's behavior toward Gen. Marshall during the McCarthy era. I'm afraid that, when given a chance to speak out against McCarthy's outrageous claims & lies about Gen. Marshall, Mr. Eisenhower fell absolutely silent.

Not very leadership-like. 

 

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Sunday, October 11, 2015 10:13 AM

     I think what I like about Ike was his leadership qualities.  I've read that early on in WWII, Eisenhower was summoned to meet with General George Marshall, asking his opinions on how to proceed and eventualy win the war.  Ike got the job because he identified the problems and laid out a plan for untimate victory.  Marshall said that everyone else just made him a laundry list of the problems.

     If you need reassurance of Ike's leadership, you only have to read the statement he had prepared for the press if D-Day had failed.  He was ready to take full responsibility for his choices, his plan and his actions.  We don't see that in our leaders anymore....or in our politicians.

      Train related:  The guy seemed to like trains.  Every picture you see of him on a train, he has a great big smile. Yes

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Posted by Euclid on Sunday, October 11, 2015 8:54 AM
A radical is the last thing this Republican Party wants to nominate.
We have a president that is more radically far left than any previous president, and a Republican Party leadership that has decided to never cross him.  If anything, this unending appeasement by the Republican Party is the issue that is causing the current turmoil in the Party.  Much of the Republican constituency wants the Party to stand up and fight back.  Would that be too radical? 
Traditionally, the two parties have been the home of the two competing philosophies of liberalism and conservatism.  But this Republican Party has recently staked out a new home as being slightly to the right of Obama because they have concluded that any friction with him will get them thrown out of office.  They would rather be #2 in Washington than be out of office.
Traditionally, there has always been a battle between the two parties.  Today, that has changed, and the larger battle is between the Republican Party leadership who appease, and its base who want to fight back against a far left agenda. 
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Posted by tree68 on Sunday, October 11, 2015 7:38 AM

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The problem I am seeing from both parties is that the candidates have to be so 'radical' to get the parties nomination that they can't get to the center where more of the general election votes are.

'Xactly.

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Posted by wanswheel on Saturday, October 10, 2015 10:47 PM
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Posted by BaltACD on Saturday, October 10, 2015 9:23 PM

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As has already been mentioned, many of these folks would have been too moderate for today's political climate.   But that's exactly what we need - someone dead in the middle, or close to it.

It's been said that had JFK been alive today, his politics would have made him a Republican.

The problem I am seeing from both parties is that the candidates have to be so 'radical' to get the parties nomination that they can't get to the center where more of the general election votes are.

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Posted by dakotafred on Saturday, October 10, 2015 8:19 PM

As a believer that people, as a general rule, get the government they deserve, I would note that America didn't fare badly in the Reagan-Bush years of 1981-1992, either. In the years since, some people would see a failure of consistency on the part of voters, veering from Bush I to Clinton to Bush II to Obama on the basis of ... what, exactly?

We always hear that the next election is pivotal, the most important, etc., and we will be hearing that from both sides again this year. It ain't necessarily so, of course. But, over time, a democracy's greatness surely does depend on wise choices by the electorate.

Do we have what it takes? To me, 2016 will furnish a clue.

 

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Posted by tree68 on Saturday, October 10, 2015 8:18 PM

As has already been mentioned, many of these folks would have been too moderate for today's political climate.   But that's exactly what we need - someone dead in the middle, or close to it.

It's been said that had JFK been alive today, his politics would have made him a Republican.

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Posted by 54light15 on Saturday, October 10, 2015 8:06 PM

Great pictures of Harry- do you think the Secret Service would let kids sit on the roof like that today? Could that be a Secret Service agent in the right foreground wearing a bow tie? You know who would have made an excellent president? General George C. Marshall. Wish there were guys like that running for prime minister of Canada and that's a fact!

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Posted by NKP guy on Saturday, October 10, 2015 8:02 PM

When it comes to rating recent Presidents... I like Ike (well enough), but...

                                               I'm just wild about Harry!

 

The America these men represented (1945-1960) was at the height of its power and influence...and we older white guys are nostalgic for it.  But like the buffalo, it isn't coming back and we need to adjust accordingly. 

W.B. Yeats might have been speaking of our own times when he wrote:

"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;

Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,

The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere

The ceremony of innocence is drowned;

The best lack all conviction, while the worst

Are full of passionate intensity."

 

 

 

 

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Posted by erikem on Saturday, October 10, 2015 6:47 PM

Deregulation in the mid-1950's would likely have been a big help, intermodal and unit trains would have gotten a quicker start. The higher capacity cars for unit trains would have been a strong incentive to upgrading the track for handling the higher axle loads.

Paul: My comment about "parity" was more in respect to the tax treatment of paying for R-O-W. My thoughts were that the RR's would still use their own money for line improvements, but would be able to expense them as opposed to capitalizing them. IIRC, you posted some WW2 PRR ads where they pointed out that they had to pay taxes on the money set aside for the wear and tear on the track.

As for the likes of Ike, it does take a rare combination of leadership, judgement, grasp of the situation and understanding of politics to reach a 5 star rank. Perhaps the most important part of the job is knowing how to set priorities. Ike was also very good at knowing when to keep his mouth shut, e.g. keeping quiet about knowing the USSR only had six operational ICBM's in early 1960 despite the clammering from a senator from Massachussets in regards to a "missile gap".

Nimitz might have made for a great president as well, though he would have loathed the self promotion required in running for office.

 

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Posted by tree68 on Saturday, October 10, 2015 4:46 PM

One might wonder what would have happened if railroads had been deregulated at the same time the Interstate highway system was being built...

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Saturday, October 10, 2015 3:57 PM

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[snipped - PDN] . . . It would have been nice of Ike to make the sure the RR's had some sort of parity in financing R-O-W enhancements in the manner that the truck and bus companies could expense their fuel taxes that paid for highway construction from the Interstate Highway program.

I used to think that way too, but:

There was a provocative column* by Gerald F. Seib in The Wall Street Journal one day this past week about the inadequate condition of the US infrastructure.  He went on to discuss the inability of Congress  to come to an agreement about funding the Highway Trust Fund for its usual 6-year term, instead extending it for just a few months or a year at a time, and the adverse effects that had on planning projects, etc. 

Although railroads were not expressly mentioned, my reaction was that it's a blessing in disguise that the rails have to generate their own capital funding - their destiny is in their own hands, and they can be flexible and adjust as business conditions and traffic volumes warrant.      

- Paul North.

*"As Infrastructure Creaks, Congress Dithers" - Oct. 5 or 6, 2015:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/as-infrastructure-creaks-congress-dithers-1444060075 

Not sure if it's available for free, or behind a "pay wall". - PDN.

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Posted by Firelock76 on Saturday, October 10, 2015 2:39 PM

Great color shot of General Eisenhower, presumeably after the war.  You didn't see that famous "Eisenhower grin" while hostilities were in progress, not like that.  Understandable, considering the pressure he was under.

It was the same with General Pershing during World War One. Wartime photos of Pershing show a pretty stern, cold-faced individual.  Once the war was over photos of Pershing smiling and laughing began to surface.

I have to take exception to what was said earlier.  Both parties today would kill to have someone like Eisenhower available to them now, trusted, respected, and well-liked by everyone.  Presidential politics today seem to be all about superstars (and maybe that began with Eisenhower, who was courted by both parties, by the way) and there just aren't any superstars available right now.  We're in a dry spell.  I expect that may change at some point but when I don't know.

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Posted by BaltACD on Saturday, October 10, 2015 2:17 PM

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 Got any of Harry?

 

 

 

I think I remember being taken to a Garrett, IN stop on Truman's whistle stop tour in 1952 by my parents.

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Posted by wanswheel on Saturday, October 10, 2015 2:12 PM

54light15

 Got any of Harry?

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Posted by erikem on Saturday, October 10, 2015 12:30 PM

Fair to say the likes of him would not get the nomination from either party. The D's have their fair share of problems with extremists in thier party.

It would have been nice of Ike to make the sure the RR's had some sort of parity in financing R-O-W enhancements in the manner that the truck and bus companies could expense their fuel taxes that paid for highway construction from the Interstate Highway program.

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Posted by 54light15 on Saturday, October 10, 2015 12:26 PM

With Casey Stengel by his side! Can't get better'n that! Great photos, thanks so much! Got any of Harry?

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Posted by schlimm on Saturday, October 10, 2015 11:53 AM

I have a vague memory of walking with my first grade class to see Ike on a "Whistlestop" tour in downtown Wheaton in 1952.    A great president; we need that sort of leadership today, though sadly he probably would not get the nomination from today's GOP.

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I like Ike
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