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Posted by STEVE HINCH on Thursday, June 1, 2017 8:21 AM

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We won't hear "Spider too slow", boy she works fast.

 

Somebody needs to read this about how to keep spiders off of security cameras.  Easiest thing to do is turn off the IR LEDs if they are on: https://www.vueville.com/blog/how-to-keep-spider-webs-off-your-security-camera-lens/

 

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Posted by xjqcf on Thursday, June 1, 2017 7:54 AM

Looks like BNSF has a track gang working on the bad joint on the side track. At the same time UP has a form B at the diamonds.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 9:40 PM

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With all of the activity going on, I fired up the audio feed and heard something I'd Never heard before. On the BNSF (Aurora sub MP 56 I think) the detector reported 'Train too slow'.

What are the thresholds that trigger this?



It's probably triggered by the lapse of too much time between axles going over the detector.  If the train is moving too slowly, it messes with the axle count.  On the UP, this used to be (maybe still is) termed "integrity failure".

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Posted by Deggesty on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 7:28 PM

rdamon

We won't hear "Spider too slow", boy she works fast.

 

Right; she works right on the bed, and does not have to worry about getting the ballast settled.

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Posted by rdamon on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 7:24 PM

We won't hear "Spider too slow", boy she works fast.

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Posted by MikeF90 on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 2:09 PM

With all of the activity going on, I fired up the audio feed and heard something I'd Never heard before. On the BNSF (Aurora sub MP 56 I think) the detector reported 'Train too slow'.

What are the thresholds that trigger this?

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Posted by xjqcf on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 12:35 PM

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just caught the BNSF local headed for it's stops north side of Rochelle. Yes, it crossed the diamonds. someone mentioned that it never does.

 

 

This job, the 476, often goes to flag center and takes the wye usually the signaled east leg to run around its consist. It also sometimes interchanges a car here with the Illinois Railway, which operates an ex-BN branch to Rockford.. Infrequently they run out west a bit; I've heard Polo as a destination over the last few months. Mostly they work BNSF's yard, located on the railroad south side of the main tracks. They also interchange with the Bulington Junction Railway, which operates the City of Rochelle Railroad. BJR operates railroad north of BNSF and south of UP. BNSF interchanges traffic via a switch off of main #1 referred to as "Wiscold" UP connects with this trackage via a switch off of its #2 main referred to as "Cold Storage" about a mile east of the diamonds. BNSF also interchanges with BJR via the "199" switch visible in the web cam. UP reaches this trackage via a switch located off of #2 main immediately adjacent to CPY076, the east connection into Global 3. The engine usually ties up on the a track referred to as the "house track" and is located off of #1 main a few blocks east of the diamond. Typical call time is 9:00 but has varied some from time to time. If things go smoothly they can tie up around 11:00, but often run longer, especially if they have to go west, or, like today, when the track work is delaying an attempt to service BJR at 199, which has not had service from BNSF since the switch was replaced last week.

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Posted by DANIEL W POOLE on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 11:32 AM
Found the BNSF local engine on the new updated Google Maps aerial. The image must have been taken some time ago, but not too long ago, there are no ballast piles but all the track panels and diamond is there. Does anyone know how the BNSF local operates? Is it done out of Rochelle? I always thought it came from a nearby yard to work Rochelle. https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9200756,-89.064052,138m/data=!3m1!1e3
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Posted by rdamon on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 11:03 AM

I have not had that freeze, but I have to refresh to get the sound going again..

Caught the regulator doing a pivot..

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Posted by MrLynn on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 11:01 AM

MKT Dave

just caught the BNSF local headed for it's stops north side of Rochelle. Yes, it crossed the diamonds. someone mentioned that it never does. 

 
I've seen it cross the diamonds, then come back a while later and go up the siding alongside the UP tracks.   Has it used the switch since the diamond replacement?
 
BTW, lately when I click the refresh arrow for the web stream, the arrow disappears but the image remains static.  I have to reload the web page to get the stream started again.
 
 
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Posted by MKT Dave on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:13 AM

just caught the BNSF local headed for it's stops north side of Rochelle. Yes, it crossed the diamonds. someone mentioned that it never does.

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Posted by rdamon on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 9:55 AM

Nice SP DPU ...

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Posted by xjqcf on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 8:58 AM

xjqcf

First BNSF eastbound on #1 just got permission through form B limits.

 

 

Heard some interesting conversations today between the BNSF local's conductor and the BNSF people doing further surfacing on the tracks (as is UP on theirs... intersting meets on the diamonds). The bottom line is that a bad joint is the problem. The the track guy offered to walk the local over the joint but the conductor demurred. He stated he would make some calls to determine how hot the cars were. A further point was raised as to who was responsible for fixing the joint and there was no clear immediate answer; at one point there was speculation that Burlington Junction, the operator of the City of Rochelle's trackage might be responsible, but that was quickly determined not to be the case so it's back to a game of finger pointing between BNSF and UP.

 

The issue of responsibility came up a few months ago when a BNSF track inspector condemned the spring from on the switch. By coincidence UP track forces were working on the diamonds. He walked over to get a fix rolling but was refused with UP asserting it was BNSF's responsibility. BNSF had to bring in their own track gang a few hours later to fix it. Nevertheless it appears most people (perhaps mostly BNSF) do not clearly know who is responsible for what; perhaps someone will have to fish out the governing agreement to get a better answer, and that's assuming there is no ambiguity.

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Posted by rdamon on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 8:28 AM

Looks like a little more tamping and regulating going on ...

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Posted by gp18 on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 7:24 AM

I read somehwere, either in TRAINS or the net about plastic pads bolted under frogs to cushion the blow from the wheelsets. It is possible this why the sound is much lower.

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Posted by ChuckCobleigh on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 9:55 PM

rdamon

The google aerial view was updated and shows the new diamonds.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9199718,-89.0759166,241m/data=!3m1!1e3

I dunno, but that link gives me an image that looks like the image on Google Earth dated September 2013 to me. The current Google Earth image is from April this year and shows the new diamonds staged west of the crossings.  This is from GE Mac.

Hmmmmm...I opened the page in Explorer in W7 and find the image updated there, but Safari still has the old image.  Even changing user agents in Safari still gives me the 2013 image. A puzzlement, I guess.

BTW, all of this stuff is running on a MacBook Pro.

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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 5:00 PM

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rdamon

It looks like they are moving a little faster.. did they raise the 10/15 MPH restriction?

 

 

Diamond definitely not as loud as it was.  

Is the UP track super-elevated at all there?  

I have listened intently to several trains now on all the tracks... Hardly a sound coming from the diamonds.  I don't think I have ever heard (not heard?) a crossing so quiet.  Did they install some sort of new fangled frogs that don't go bump in the night (and day)?

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Posted by rdamon on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 4:37 PM

The google aerial view was updated and shows the new diamonds.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9199718,-89.0759166,241m/data=!3m1!1e3

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Posted by cefinkjr on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 3:14 PM

BtrainBob
 
cefinkjr
 I'm still curious about the CITIRAIL unit.

 

Citicorp Railmark Inc (trading as Citirail Express or CREX) is known for leasing locomotives to the BNSF Railway because of their crisis to move oil trains starting in 2013

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citicorp_Railmark_Inc._(Citirail)

Thank you. Bow

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Posted by MemphisBlue on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:14 PM

rdamon

It looks like they are moving a little faster.. did they raise the 10/15 MPH restriction?

 

 

Defintely faster on both BNSF Main One and UP Main One.

Diamond definitely not as loud as it was.  

Is the UP track super-elevated at all there? 

 

 

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Posted by rdamon on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 1:48 PM

It looks like they are moving a little faster.. did they raise the 10/15 MPH restriction?

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Posted by AgentKid on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 1:42 PM

Thanks to everyone for their reports and pictures on the replacement this morning.

That was some job!

Bruce

 

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Posted by BtrainBob on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 12:28 PM

cefinkjr
 I'm still curious about the CITIRAIL unit.

Citicorp Railmark Inc (trading as Citirail Express or CREX) is known for leasing locomotives to the BNSF Railway because of their crisis to move oil trains starting in 2013

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citicorp_Railmark_Inc._(Citirail)

 

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Posted by cefinkjr on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 12:14 PM

So what's the story on the EB stack train now passing over the diamonds on BNSF #2?  It's headed by a single unit and, as if that's not odd enough, that unit was lettered "CITIRAIL". 

Added as it cleared at 1219: There was a single BNSF DPU on the rear.  Nothing unusual about that but I'm still curious about the CITIRAIL unit.

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Posted by cefinkjr on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 12:02 PM

Looks to me like a fairly good sized pile of ballast ON the spur.  I don't believe I'd want to run my train down there if I were the engineer or conductor. 

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Posted by xjqcf on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 11:42 AM

Now an eastbound BNSF has been given a speed restriction of 10 mph on #2 track, which will be the first movement on #2 actually over the diamonds

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Posted by rdamon on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 11:37 AM

Looks like the maintainers are looking at the siding as well. Quite a breeze blowing.

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Posted by xjqcf on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 11:34 AM

Westbound BNSF has form B permission on track #1. Also BNSF track inspector looking over the diamonds

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Posted by xjqcf on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 11:19 AM

rdamon
I do not recall seeing the tamper go down the siding after they dumped ballast on Sunday. Not sure if that was the reason for the abort by the local.
 

 

It didn't. When the crew briefed with track forces after going on duty they seemed to indicate it would be ok to proceed with the understanding that the track had not been surfaced. What changed when they reached the switch I did not catch. All I heard, apparently from one of the track guys, was that he would have to make a phone call. The crew then indicated they would not proceed past the switch and reversed back to the yard.

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Posted by rdamon on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 11:15 AM

WP & MP Units

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