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Posted by ChuckCobleigh on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 4:50 PM

Lots of MOW activity at the diamonds today: arc welding, grinding, impact wrench work.  Three, maybe four heavy trucks, and they're still at it coming up to 5 PM.  At least the temp is up to 50° now.

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Posted by Brian Schmidt on Wednesday, May 13, 2015 3:06 PM

If the weather this weekend proves to be better than the forecast I will trek to Rochelle to take an inventory of the work for News Wire.

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Posted by USCGR Tom on Thursday, May 14, 2015 4:11 PM

UP business train with 3 or 4 each UP business passenger cars just passed over the diamond heading west, 5PM est

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Posted by cefinkjr on Friday, May 15, 2015 8:10 PM

54 "stacks" EB on UP OS 8:09 pm

And I do mean "stacks" - all double.  How does one count cars in such a train with some single wells, some articulated?

This one was notable because it was handled by one unit.  I'm not in to modern Diseasels enough to know even who built it, much less its HP, TE, or any other important detail.

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Posted by AgentKid on Saturday, May 16, 2015 2:03 PM

Just saw what looks like three generations of one family.

Grandma didn't realize you don't need to wave to mid-train DPU units!

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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Saturday, May 16, 2015 7:34 PM

AgentKid

Just saw what looks like three generations of one family.

Grandma didn't realize you don't need to wave to mid-train DPU units!

Bruce

 

Maybe that is why so many railfans complain that the Engineer didn't wave back!

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Posted by MKT Dave on Tuesday, May 19, 2015 7:30 AM

UP WB, track inspector with all sorts of blinky lights, two yellow MOW equipment running on tracks, I didn't recognize this pair. at 0723am.

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Posted by cefinkjr on Tuesday, May 19, 2015 9:48 AM

MoW gang working on the near diamond ... again.  I imagine that Track Supervisor wishes he had never heard of Rochelle.

I've been assuming from the white MoW vehicles that maintenance here is UP's responsibility (UP MoW equipment in this area is always white).  Can anyone confirm that or tell me I'm wrong?

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Posted by Dakguy201 on Tuesday, May 19, 2015 9:55 AM

cefinkjr

I've been assuming from the white MoW vehicles that maintenance here is UP's responsibility (UP MoW equipment in this area is always white).  Can anyone confirm that or tell me I'm wrong?

 

 
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Posted by chrisjmiller on Tuesday, May 19, 2015 10:44 AM

UP stacks with the "Salt Lake 2002" loco on the front just gone through, heading to Global III.

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Posted by AgentKid on Tuesday, May 19, 2015 10:47 AM

Dakguy201
Around here at least BNSF vehicles are also white. 
 

CPR MOW equipment is also white.

But it is not the RR's choice. Up here oil company servicing equipment is also white. The truck makers have said if you want to lease instead of buy, you get white trucks. White trucks have a significantly higher resale price for the manufacturers after the lease has expired than any other colour. Or else the lease price will have to be higher.

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Posted by cefinkjr on Tuesday, May 19, 2015 11:33 AM

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Dakguy201
Around here at least BNSF vehicles are also white. 
  

CPR MOW equipment is also white.

The truck makers have said if you want to lease instead of buy, you get white trucks. White trucks have a significantly higher resale price for the manufacturers after the lease has expired than any other colour. Or else the lease price will have to be higher.

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I'll take your word for that, Bruce.  But, when I was managing vehicle leasing on part of the Penn Central, all of our vehicles were leased from a wholly owned subsidiary that we had inherited from PRR, not from the manufacturers.  Those vehicles were ugly PC green with white lettering.  On top of that, we required so many special modifications that the leasing company bought cab-chassis trucks and had a local body shop add the custom bodies.  But that's a whole other issue.

So is UP responsible for maintenance or is BNSF?  The definitive answer to that question probably lies in the original deal that was hammered out when the second road reached that location and needed to cross the other.

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Posted by AgentKid on Tuesday, May 19, 2015 11:43 AM

cefinkjr

 

 

But, when I was managing vehicle leasing on part of the Penn Central,

Up here the change occurred in either '82 or '83, so it would have been much later than you remebered.

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, May 19, 2015 11:55 AM

cefinkjr
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Around here at least BNSF vehicles are also white. 
  

CPR MOW equipment is also white.

The truck makers have said if you want to lease instead of buy, you get white trucks. White trucks have a significantly higher resale price for the manufacturers after the lease has expired than any other colour. Or else the lease price will have to be higher.

Bruce

I'll take your word for that, Bruce.  But, when I was managing vehicle leasing on part of the Penn Central, all of our vehicles were leased from a wholly owned subsidiary that we had inherited from PRR, not from the manufacturers.  Those vehicles were ugly PC green with white lettering.  On top of that, we required so many special modifications that the leasing company bought cab-chassis trucks and had a local body shop add the custom bodies.  But that's a whole other issue.

So is UP responsible for maintenance or is BNSF?  The definitive answer to that question probably lies in the original deal that was hammered out when the second road reached that location and needed to cross the other.

The normal maintenance responsibility normally falls to the 2nd carrier to the crossing point.  If the second carrier had not come to the location the crossing would not be necessary, thus the 2nd carrier gets 100% of the crossing maintenance and upgrading costs.  However, each crossing may have it's own maintenance agreement that may be different for reasons that make sense to the carriers involved at the time the agreement was negotiated and signed.

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Posted by AgentKid on Tuesday, May 19, 2015 12:05 PM

Edit to my previous post:

Oil companies started making the change in '82 or '83. I was talking to a CPR signal maintainer once, after he had just gotten his first white truck around 2003-5. Before that CPR MOW crews had used the same odd shade of yellow since you could buy trucks in anything other than black.

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Posted by AgentKid on Tuesday, May 19, 2015 1:45 PM

Are there still problems and delays at intermodal ports on the US west coast? I just saw a completely empty WB train of well cars and TOFC cars on the BNSF. I haven't seen that since there were stories on the Newswire about problems a few months ago.

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Posted by cefinkjr on Tuesday, May 19, 2015 2:42 PM

AgentKid

Are there still problems and delays at intermodal ports on the US west coast? I just saw a completely empty WB train of well cars and TOFC cars on the BNSF.

Bruce

That sounds to me like a lot of boxes sitting on the dock (or expected) with not enough rail cars to move them out.  It's also indicative of east-west trade imbalances; doesn't take a container to ship dollars westward.

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, May 19, 2015 5:22 PM

Re:  Color of leased vehicles.

It's often really easy to spot the vehicles that used to be owned by certain companies - their distinctive paint scheme or color being the reason, of course.

I'd opine that said companies may not want the public to see a run-down, third-owner vehicle still in their livery.  With white, you might still see a shadow of their markings, if the adhesive didn't all come off...

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Posted by joegreen on Tuesday, May 19, 2015 6:17 PM

That train you saw today was the B-CHCSTP. Headed to St Paul.

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Posted by MKT Dave on Wednesday, May 20, 2015 12:18 PM

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the rail on the rail train is not moving to much because its bolted down in the middle

So what happens if the Big E pulls a knuckle or a drawbar along his/her merry way? Hmm

 

 

 

 

 

 

And I see these videos of train and the camera Man is as close to the train as can be, I sure hope no one got hit by that.

I know, thier fault for being so close. but still, thats gonna hurt.

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Posted by chrisjmiller on Saturday, May 23, 2015 11:33 AM

I'm a huge fan of the webcam, but have a small query about the weather and temperature display at the bottom right.  It's currently showing 46F, but there are folks sitting around in T-shirts and shorts.  Either they breed 'em tough in Rochelle, or the number's wrong!

Looking at a few weather apps, they're showing just over 70F, which sounds more plausible.  Perhaps the system is picking up minimum overnight temperature, rather than the current value?

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Posted by chrisjmiller on Saturday, May 23, 2015 2:20 PM
It's now gone up to 72F. Perhaps someone at Rochelle reads these forums - or maybe the temperature is updated twice a day?
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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, May 26, 2015 11:19 AM

Well, that was interesting.  Got on the cam, saw a light engine sitting on the far BNSF track, on the far side of the diamond.  Shortly thereafter, the headlights went to bright and the ditch lights came on and it crossed the diamond and stopped.  Turns out they were headed into the siding.

The light engine didn't stay long, and they're back out off the siding just a few minutes later, still running light.

And as the light engine was blowing for the crossing just out of sight of the diamond, a BNSF eastbound stacker came through on the near track.

Plenty of MOW vehicles in view - I originally thought the locomotive was somehow involved with them.

While it was quiet, you could hear it raining, and the radar looks like they're going to get a good soaking soon.

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Posted by MKT Dave on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 3:35 PM

Heard for the first time, the mile post detector, had two hotboxes, she (the voice is female) call the car number, truck number. 2nd hotbox, the same way of identifying the which box was hot.

I forgot to mention, a MOW truck, with weilding on the diamonds, waiting on trains to continue work. They had thier speakers volumn up, was able to hear what I assume the engineers and the dispatchers. I'm gonna have to get me a scanner.

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 6:06 PM

1806 CT and MofW is still on scene

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Posted by MrLynn on Wednesday, June 3, 2015 8:32 PM

Woah!  Just logged in a little while ago and caught two manifest freights meeting just east of the diamonds.  Got a screen shot, if I can figure out how to post it:

 Edit: Is that graffiti on the side of the westbound, or some odd logo? Click to enlarge photo.

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, June 4, 2015 6:38 AM

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Woah!  Just logged in a little while ago and caught two manifest freights meeting just east of the diamonds.  Got a screen shot, if I can figure out how to post it:

 Edit: Is that graffiti on the side of the westbound, or some odd logo? Click to enlarge photo.

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Looks to be graffiti to me!

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Posted by MikeF90 on Thursday, June 4, 2015 5:10 PM

I just fired up the webcam page and a westbound UP stacker came through with a stuck horn - local residents must have been very annoyed. I've heard the horn for eight minutes and counting ....

Can't the crew pull a breaker and stop it?  Wonder if they have a 'running repair' mechanic at G3 who could fix it.

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Posted by rdettmer on Thursday, June 4, 2015 5:59 PM

the welder is working late today. ot

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Posted by CatFoodFlambe on Thursday, June 4, 2015 6:32 PM

What's BNSF hauling in the unit train of low-sided gondolas?   Some form of taconite coming down from northern Minnesota?    Loads east, empties west, dark colored bulk commodity of some sort, not tarped - I don't think it's frac sand or dirty dirt.    If someone knows, would you also know the origin and destination(s)?

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