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Posted by CShaveRR on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 9:09 AM
Bob, there's another thread about these "bad" railroad crossings. I've often thought, "Where's a cop when you need one?" when I've seen some goofy stuff at these crossings, but for them a grade crossing is probably just another stretch of road (and idiot drivers don't confine themselves to grade crossings). There are lots of street/highway intersections that have far worse records than any of the grade crossings on the map, but where's the outrage there?

Chris, the scale shows us both things that we don't really want to see, too. We, unfortunately, don't make time for exercise in our schedules--if we were to bike this morning, we'd want a destination in mind, and a purpose (train-watching might work for me, but I couldn't be assured of a biking companion all the time!). Anyway, we both slept pretty well last night, and I, at least, am not suffering any bad consequences.

In railroad news, this gives a whole new definition to "smudge pot":

http://www.utu.org/worksite/detail_news.cfm?ArticleID=52477

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Posted by AgentKid on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:42 PM

I had way too much weather excitement here yesterday. Not long after I had made my last post here yesterday, I was in another part of my apartment(Ahem) and I could hear banging on the outside wall of the building. It was hail. I figured lightning would be next, so I went over to the computer, in the living room, to shut it down and all of a sudden hail started hitting the window harder than I have ever heard it in the twenty years I have lived here. I chickened out and left the computer running, and ran and hid behind some counters in the kitchen. After a couple of minutes the hail stopped and I shut the computer down.

I then had to leave, and on my way back home about supper time, I went to the Safeway up the street. The clerk was telling me that cars in the area parked away from buildings and out from under tree's had their windows broken. I saw on the news that house's in other areas of the city had their windows broken, but I haven't heard of any damage to our building. The news was talking about quarter sized hail, but I don't know about that. What astonished me, besides the noise, was how fast the hailstones were traveling. As I turned to run to the kitchen, I could see hailstones hitting my brick window sill on the second story here, and bouncing way out across the parking lot.

Before all this started yesterday it was about 70 degrees F, and when I turned on the computer now, the little weather box said it only about 48 F. And this is the week of the Calgary Stampede.Cowboy Folks won't be happy down there. Now I have to go catch up on about 22 hours of e-mail.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:26 PM
Bruce, I have to tell you...back in my days in the composing room of a small-town daily newspaper in the Dutch Midwest, there was an AP article about the Calgary Stampede. Each article was set on the Linotype, a proof made, and read by the proofreader or one of the interns (usually). When the proofs were read, new linotype lines had to be made and inserted into the article--inserting them was one of my favorite jobs. Anyway, this article came along, and I saw the corrections. Nancy (the cute intern in everyone else's mind--too old for me!) had changed all references about Calgary to "Calvary"! I called Nancy to the proofreaders' window and had her bring the atlas. She was sweet enough about it, and I didn't make those changes.

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It looked like we were in line for some weather last night, but our Lake Defense was holding it back. Lake Michigan is a wonderful weather-modifier around here. By the time we got anything--very late in the night--it only was about a tenth of an inch of rain. But places well to our west--Rochelle and DeKalb, for instance--got clobbered.

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The hi-wide loads I'd been checking on are carefully descending Cajon Pass about now.

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:31 PM

CShaveRR
Lake Michigan is a wonderful weather-modifier around here.

We get the same thing from Lake Ontario - it can be a rip-roaring storm around Buffalo and Toronto, but by the time it gets to the east end of the lake, and us, we're lucky if we get some rain.  Most of our nasty summer weather comes out of the northwest (Canada) or hard by southwest, in both cases missing the lake entirely.

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 6:59 AM

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CShaveRR
Lake Michigan is a wonderful weather-modifier around here.

We get the same thing from Lake Ontario - it can be a rip-roaring storm around Buffalo and Toronto, but by the time it gets to the east end of the lake, and us, we're lucky if we get some rain.  Most of our nasty summer weather comes out of the northwest (Canada) or hard by southwest, in both cases missing the lake entirely.

Some folks say the same thing about Lake Winnebago...but I don't know if it's big enough to cause any effect...especially on the western side of the lake.

Parts A and B of my field trips are done now waiting for an email or a phone call.

Carl,
Do you "get" about 60 miles a day?

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 3:32 PM
A day's pay is shown on my reports as 100 miles, but in the total mileage count I'm credited with 160 miles for each assignment completed within eight hours. My next big goal is 24,000 miles for this year, which is what I need to qualify for a vacation in 2011 (or pay in lieu thereof). I should have that covered by my next weekend.

I'd say the weather affects Lake Winnebago more than it affects the weather (I've seen some good whitecaps on that lake!).

I'm waiting for time to pass, before I make a couple of phone calls, but other things are going apace.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:39 PM
Worked with Tweedle-Dumb today, but thank Goodness, Tweedle-Dumbest was not our conductor. With half of an intermediate retarder inoperative, I needed every break I could get! Eight days to vacation; only two in-wrongs (and no run-throughs, in spite of the retarders) so far this calendar month. Nobody I work with can make that claim.

Tomorrow, I may receive a student. Might be an exercise in futility; in the eight days I have left before vacation, all I could possibly teach him/her would be attitude...

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Saw on last night's Newswire that BNSF's reward to a couple of women for saving a man's life on a grade crossing was a chance to operate their locomotive simulator. Not bad! I wonder how good simulators have become compared to the one CNW had 20 or so years ago. My older daughter and I were among a few people who got to operate that one in West Chicago, thanks to an excellent Traveling Engineer.

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We had a nice short (but moderately heavy) shower at Proviso this morning, but Pat reports that nothing has fallen in Lombard yet today. We're forecast to get a high of 90; I'm sure we're close to that.

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Posted by Deggesty on Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:49 PM

CShaveRR
Worked with Tweedle-Dumb today

Tweedle-Dumb or Tweedle Doesn't Want To? Many years ago, we were moving the Stock Room stock from one location to another. A young fellow was supposed to be helping me, but I was having to tell him, "Now take that carton off the pallet and put it on the shelf," over and over. At the first break, I told our supervisor that I needed someone to work with me. I do not know what the boy did after that break.

Another interesting character was one I was attempting to train when I was working the second shift. He essentially had two speeds: slow and snail. One evening he came to me and told me he had flaps of skin on his feet and would like to go home. I sent him to the man who did have such authority as to let him go. He did not come in the next day, so I duly added another comment to the list I had been keeping. The following morning, the Stores supervisor called me after he thought I would be up and confirmed what I had written. The boy came in that afternoon, a few minutes late. I was out on the Manufacturing floor and he came up to me, told that he had been to a doctor, who cut the flaps off and told him to go home and not go to work. I told him, "Ed (the supervisor) wants to see you." I never saw the boy again.

In general, the people who could not make use of what they were told did not last long.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Thursday, July 15, 2010 6:49 PM
Without going into detail, John, this guy is Tweedle-Dumb. He's willing to work any time, and often showing a lack of foresight (there are times when it's best to do nothing, but some people don't realize that). But he's very congenial, and polite (he thanks me for watching out for him several times per day). Tweedle-Dumbest, on the other hand, listened to every word he said yesterday, and we left the yard buried.

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Too hot to cook today, so we went to our favorite local dining establishment (John, you know the place, thanks to your visit). It was rush hour, so there were plenty of scoots. An empty coal train with DPU was also headed westbound, and passed through just ahead (less than a minute--they were on different tracks) of a westbound scoot. Can't wait to see how the scenario changes in three years or so, when all of the improvements have been made.

Also visible from the restaurant were many spectacular thunderheads to the south and east. I wouldn't have minded some of their largesse, but others will reap the rewards. We got home, and watch the radar--the graphic display of these storms' eruption definitely rated a pair of "Whoa!"s. We, on the other hand, should see our dew point drop, so the upper 80s should be a lot more bearable tomorrow.

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:40 PM

I once worked with a woman whose speed was "if I leave some, they won't give me as much to do tomorrow."  Training her was a total waste of time.  Unfortunately, getting rid of her was very difficult (despite several attempts).  Nobody missed her when she retired.

We may see some of what SE Michigan saw this afternoon later tonight or early tomorrow, if the lake doesn't kill it off.  We can use some rain.  Quarter sized hail not so much.

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Thursday, July 15, 2010 8:32 PM
CShaveRR
[snip] . . . in the eight days I have left before vacation, all I could possibly teach him/her would be attitude...

But that's the most important part - with the right one, a person can do almost anything; with the wrong one, they can't do a lot - it's very much a self-inflicted condition.

One of the standing jokes and banter between me and my wife relates to a dinner stop at a Burger King in Newburgh, NY about 12 years ago, on our way to ride Amtrak's Adirondack to Montreal the next day and then VIA's Ocean to Halifax, N.S. that night and the following day. The service was exceeding slow for simple basic and 'brand' menu items - "Whoppers" as I recall. Even the manager noticed and told the teenager who was gathering our order together, "Pick your feet up, Kenny !"

I also recall an article in Trains many years ago about a new fellow's experienceS aboard a dining car, and with the head chef. The boss said something like, "I don't mind telling you once how to do something. But if I have to tell you twice - change you when we get to Chicago !". Fair enough to my mind - and fair warning, too.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:02 PM
Just found out that my student is on mandatory Federal rest, and won't be able to come in tomorrow or Saturday. Bummer, in a way. But I usually "vant to be alone" up there, anyway.

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Posted by WJM2223 on Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:47 PM

Carl:

How often, big and close to schedule are the Rail Ex perishable trains running these days?  What route do they take to get through Chicago?

 

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Posted by CShaveRR on Friday, July 16, 2010 5:31 AM
The Railex trains are running twice weekly. Two come from Delano, California; the cars from Wallula, Washington are added to one of the Delano trains at Green River. Size is around 60 or more for the first (combined) train, and in the 30s or 40s for the second train, about two days later.

Schedule? I usually track the first eastbound of the week, and it could get into town anywhere from Sunday morning to Monday morning and still be on time. When you're coming a couple thousand miles, a lot can influence the time it takes to cross the country. Last I checked this week's train it was behind schedule, but should be able to make it up.

Routing in Chicago? As far as I know, it takes the UP Geneva and Rockwell Subs to Ogden Junction, then CSX to Barr Yard and out.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Saturday, July 17, 2010 5:28 AM
Sad (for me) news: By general order, the speed limit for all freight trains on our line between Chicago and Elburn has been reduced to 50. Passenger trains are still allowed 70. It may have something to do with cutting in the new block signals between Wheaton and West Chicago, which is supposed to take place this weekend, but if so, why so widespread?

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Bittersweet (for me) news: My going-away party will be on Wednesday. I may work for a couple of days after the festivities, but not sure I'd count on it. Don't know if I'll get hugs or footprints on my posterior. At any rate, a cookout will be held in my honor at the hump, and the traditional cake will probably be served.

So I'll only have my student for one day--tomorrow. All joking aside about only being able to instill the attitude, I think that will be very useful. This young lady (whom I met briefly before she was furloughed) seems to be extremely focused on doing her job...eye on the track ahead at all times. I know she has a quirky sense of humor, but I think that's a sign of intelligence. Maybe I'll be able to show her how to do "that" (remember the guy who wasn't going to let me retire until I told them how to do that?)!

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Saturday, July 17, 2010 11:05 AM

Maybe the order has to do with 'better train handling' Carl, but that's from an "outsider".  Eager 'beaver' though I am.

Congrats again Carl.  Thumbs Up

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Posted by CShaveRR on Saturday, July 17, 2010 4:07 PM
Dan, it's probably as much a reflection of reality as anything. The trains can't get up to speed now if they have to slow and stop to avoid meeting Metra in the station. That won't be a problem when all of the work is done, but you may have trains utilizing crossovers (which will probably also be 50 m.p.h.). And if Metra runs more scoots (which are allowed 70, but have to stop on occasion at stations), it will still be hard to get up to speed.

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My student came up the stairs today the minute her Federal rest requirement expired. When she came with safety glasses and ear plugs, intent on adhering to the rules, I knew we'd hit it off (I'm the only other CRO I've seen who really has those things available). I'll work with her again tomorrow. All of the stuff we talked about today won't do her a bit of good while she's learning how (and when) to throw switches and operate retarders, but it will make her one of the best ever once she has the experience!

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Too hot to do anything outside today. Pat and I drove to the Farmers' Market today after work (would have been a bike trip, 10 or 15 degrees lower), and acquired some juicy peaches and some sweet corn for tonight. Oh, and some asparagus.

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Posted by blhanel on Saturday, July 17, 2010 5:54 PM

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Pat and I drove to the Farmers' Market today after work (would have been a bike trip, 10 or 15 degrees lower), and acquired some juicy peaches and some sweet corn for tonight. Oh, and some asparagus.

 

Great minds think alike.  We visited the Cedar Rapids Farmer's Market this morning downtown, and picked up a few fresh items, including sweet corn which we just finished enjoying for dinner.  I took a few pictures while down there, will post them later.  I also got down to the transcon this afternoon for a bit, and got somwhat lucky- caught two coalies meeting each other on the Cedar River bridge.  One was loaded and the other empty, of course.  Pictures to follow,,,

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Posted by CShaveRR on Saturday, July 17, 2010 6:28 PM
Can't wait to see your pictures, Brian! Our Farmer's Market is right next to the tracks, and a Com Ed coal train went through (two units on the point, one DPU) while we were there. Great place to meet old friends, too...

The perishable train will probably be too early for you again this week.

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Posted by blhanel on Saturday, July 17, 2010 7:14 PM

 OK, pictures as promised... first, a couple of shots from the Farmer's Market here:

We've developed the habit of parking in a ramp near Quaker Oats and walking along the tracks down to the market area- the city has done a nice job of sprucing up the ROW:

Finally, here's a couple of shots from the ped bridge overlooking the UP Transcon near C Ave. SW this afternoon- caught two coal trains meeting each other while crossing the Cedar River.


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Posted by CShaveRR on Saturday, July 17, 2010 8:39 PM
Nice shots, Brian, all the way around! We'd love to have a market of that magnitude (the band, however, would be at our Cruise Nights, just the other side of Main Street).

I think the last time your photographs of the bridge graced the Forum, it was under water! Nice to see it performing as it should (this would have been an impossible shot in CNW days, of course!).

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Posted by jeffhergert on Saturday, July 17, 2010 8:58 PM

Brian, you got more in that shot (of the two trains meeting) than you think.  You can't really tell, but the engineer of the westbound was wearing a Kromer, red with white polka dots.

I saw you up on the bridge, but wasn't sure if it was you or not.

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Posted by blhanel on Saturday, July 17, 2010 10:27 PM

 ALRIGHT!!!  GOTCHA!

 

EDIT: Hey, this is a unique situation- I can actually ask the engineer a question about what I observed today.  After you passed C St. SW, you had a flashing yellow ahead, and there hadn't been another train through there in at least half an hour.  What was up?  Did you have to stop at Beverly for some reason?

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Posted by jeffhergert on Saturday, July 17, 2010 11:05 PM

blhanel

 ALRIGHT!!!  GOTCHA!

 

EDIT: Hey, this is a unique situation- I can actually ask the engineer a question about what I observed today.  After you passed C St. SW, you had a flashing yellow ahead, and there hadn't been another train through there in at least half an hour.  What was up?  Did you have to stop at Beverly for some reason?

We never actually stopped, we just slowed down.  A train that was two ahead of us had to set out a car with a warm bearing at the west end of Beverly.  Those trains ahead of us were starting to move again and we were just catching up to them.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:28 AM
Boy, I hope today lives up to the hype! I go to work and relieve one of my favorite CROs (the Princess Bride). Then I get to work with a fantastic student, the two regulars in the lower towers, and my favorite (and therefore arguably the best) hump conductor. And when I get done today, come what may, I go down the stairs for the final time in a professional capacity!

It should also be the day that I qualify for next year's vacation. I need 85 miles; should receive 160.

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Sunday, July 18, 2010 11:08 AM

Congrats again Carl.  Where's Ed and his story about the long time hogger on the last day?  That may fit well (slightly different craft tho)...

EDIT:
Found it. ( http://cs.trains.com/trccs/forums/p/63562/782393.aspx#782393 )

edblysard
Got to watch it happen just a few weeks ago...
Old timer engineer, number 1 on the roster, who had more than enough years in gave it up, his wife was ill and needed him home full time.
From what I understand, he used to come to work with his uncle back when he was a teenager, and this is the only place he has ever worked, at all.

He showed up, just like every other day, readied his motor, and did his job.
No noise, no complaining, no griping and, at his request, no ceremony from the brass.

They did give him get a quit that day.

He tied the motor down when they were done, came in, tied up at the computer, went back and took the few things left in his locker, dumped them in a grocery bag...came back and left the bag and his grip outside the front door to the locker room...went back out to the yard, shook a few hands, then climbed back up on his motor, sat down on the engineers seat, put his hand on the controls one last time, and just sat there for a few minutes...
He finally shook his head a little, checked to make sure he had it all tied down right, and climbed back down.

He stood there a few seconds, then, of all things, patted the side of the motor, like you would pat a good horse on the flank, then he stepped out into the yard for one last look at the place he had spent so much time.

It took him a few seconds to realize everyone had stopped working...we were all watching him.

Someone, (I'm not telling him who, ever) started to clap...then one of the yard engineers started to sound off a grade crossing signal, and then the rest of them followed suit, and laid on with the horns and bells...the guys in the tower hit the big warning air horn on the side of the tower...

He grinned, shot us all the bird, walked over, picked up his grocery bag and grip, threw them in the back of his car, and drove off property.
Hope I am that lucky when I give it up...

Ed 


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Posted by Modelcar on Sunday, July 18, 2010 11:58 AM

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And when I get done today, come what may, I go down the stairs for the final time in a professional capacity!

Oh....what a personal final statement....!

For someone who has enjoyed his work and responsibility thru the years, that can be a very emotional final step.....But the future can be enlightening too.

Have been retired now in the 17th year, and for the most part, it's been comfortable and being enjoyed.  Feel fortunate.   Now our best wishes to you, Carl & Pat....Enjoy.

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Posted by chad thomas on Sunday, July 18, 2010 1:05 PM

CShaveRR
And when I get done today, come what may, I go down the stairs for the final time in a professional capacity!.

 

Wow Carl, A BIG congratulations !!!!!!

The railroad will be without a VERY valuable asset from here on Shock . I wish you and Pat a very blessed retired life from this day forward.

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Posted by Deggesty on Sunday, July 18, 2010 9:10 PM

CShaveRR
Boy, I hope today lives up to the hype! I go to work and relieve one of my favorite CROs (the Princess Bride). Then I get to work with a fantastic student, the two regulars in the lower towers, and my favorite (and therefore arguably the best) hump conductor. And when I get done today, come what may, I go down the stairs for the final time in a professional capacity!

 

It should also be the day that I qualify for next year's vacation. I need 85 miles; should receive 160.

 

Carl, welcome to the ranks of the no-longer-gainfully-employed. It's good that you had a good crew to work with on your last day.

I trust you had a good "let's-get-rid-of-him" party (that is how I referred to the party held for me the day I retired; I did no work that day except clean my office out).

I'm curious: how do you take vacation from work that you no longer have?

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Posted by tree68 on Sunday, July 18, 2010 9:10 PM

Carl - Congrats!  Isn't it a grand feeling?  Now about all that spare time you thought you'd have.

Forget it.  It doesn't exist (although it is nice to be able to just say "not today...")

Thumbs UpBow

 

 

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