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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:03 PM
Thanks for fixing it, Larry! I can see clearly now...

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 6:12 PM

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...one of them wouldn't come up for me, though...

Nor me.  Spelled it wrong (a space where there shouldn't have been).

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 5:05 PM
Thanks for the anniversary wishes, folks. Dinner/Theater was a great experience, too expensive to do often. Maybe less expensive when you consider that we have no need whatsoever for supper! Our friend Karen had a brief but pivotal solo, and showed how to compete with an orchestra and win!

Speaking of celebrations, how could I have forgotten? It's also Joanie Hanel's birthday. Hope it's been a great one! And a year of joy, happiness, and good health to you as well (good health after the operation, anyway!).

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Posted by Willy2 on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 3:59 PM

Happy Anniversary Carl!

CoolYeah!!

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Posted by zardoz on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:37 AM

CShaveRR
And anniversary greetings to my wife Pat, who stuck with me through good times and bad for the past 37 years.

Congratulations!!  And I thought I was doing good reaching 25 years.
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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 7:43 AM
All interesting shots, Larry (one of them wouldn't come up for me, though).

The one that spoke to me most was the one of the roundhouse wall. It took me back to when I was a pre-teen, poking around GTW's yard in Grand Haven. No abandoned roundhouses, and for a time the turntable was still there (later removed). But the coal dock (still standing) was interesting to try and figure out, and I found the foundation for the water tower, and the old ferry slip (apron long gone). Where the tracks weren't used, they were very much overgrown like this.

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Birthday greetings to Jim ("Cannonball"). Happiness and good health this coming year!

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And anniversary greetings to my wife Pat, who stuck with me through good times and bad for the past 37 years. We're celebrating today with dinner and a show at Drury Lane Theater. One of the stars in Ragtime is a girl who went to high school with our younger daughter (same one we saw in Too Hot to Handel last January).

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Posted by The Butler on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 10:46 PM

 Thanks, Larry!

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 9:48 PM

Nice story!

OK, here we go with round two of the photos from my photo class portfolio:

Railfanning at the Rome, NY station one day:

http://www.tree68.net/Railroad/RomeSign.jpg

I managed to catch an eastbound Turbo while I was there.  I was pretty excited about that.  Note the crewman in the door of the power coach, waiting for a highball:

http://www.tree68.net/Railroad/Turbo.jpg

Crossings are few and far between on the Water Level Route (now the CSX Chicago Line).  Thus was this CWR train able to sneak up on me.  Fortunately I wasn't standing in the gauge.  They were moving:

http://www.tree68.net/Railroad/RailTrain.jpg

Another shot from my local chase in Watertown, NY.  This is the local passing over aptly named "Arch Street."  Headed right to left in the picture, the train would have just passed through the Watertown station, if it still stood.  It's now a parking lot, and a road now runs over the former ROW.

http://www.tree68.net/Railroad/ArchStreet.jpg

Back at Fort Drum, a Conrail crew is working on taking out a train of military equipment.  It appears the engineer is waiting patiently for the crew on the ground to sort things out.

http://www.tree68.net/Railroad/WestYard.jpg

This wall no longer stands.  At the time, it was the last standing vestige of the roundhouse in Watertown. 

http://www.tree68.net/Railroad/Roundhouse.jpg

You can still see the pit and the tracks radiating from it in this satellite image.

And finally, one of the assignments for our portfolio was a white on white or black on black shot.  What better subject for a railroad themed portfolio than coal?  Unfortunately this wasn't taken on a RR coal pile or in a tender, but it's the thought that counts:

http://www.tree68.net/Railroad/Coal.jpg

Once again, all of these shots date to the early 80's.  Wish I'd had a better sense of RR photography at the time.  And technically,  a lot of them are pretty flat, contrast-wise.   But they are what they are.

Enjoy!

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Posted by CShaveRR on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 3:17 PM
Metra's May issue of On the Bi-Level has an amazing lost-and-found story (there do not appear to be copyright restrictions on this material; I hope no one minds my reprinting it here).

On March 8, I was on the Rock Island 5:10 p.m. train from Chicago to Joliet. At some point, the diamond fell out of my wedding ring. I did not notice it was missing until I got home. My husband and I went back to the train station that evening to follow my steps from the train to the parking lot. We did not find it. On Tuesday, I called Metra’s lost and found, but it had not been turned in. After getting off of the train on March 9th, I decided to look around again. Jim McCormick was working in the tower at Joliet that evening. He noticed me looking around and asked if everything was okay. I told him I lost my diamond. He immediately took action and he and Miles Fuller tracked down the car I was sitting in on Monday. Within a couple of hours, Jim and Miles found my diamond on the train. I want to thank them both for all of their help. They went above and beyond to help me get my diamond back. I cannot thank them enough, and I want Metra to know what terrific workers they have as part of the Metra team.

Judy

Metra's response:

We’re told that dispatcher Don Nelson also helped to find the needle in the haystack. We’re proud to have such multifaceted workers. And we’re amazed they were able to find your diamond,

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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:12 AM

I voted, but the subject wasn't all that interesting to me, ergo no comment. 

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, May 10, 2010 10:39 PM

CShaveRR
This installment of "Trackside with Trains" has "glint" as the subject

I'm still trying to figure out how Alex comes up with so many votes when the comments on the forum seem to favor others...

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Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, May 10, 2010 4:23 PM
This installment of "Trackside with Trains" has "glint" as the subject. Definitely a neat thing about railroads. I remember one time seeing the sun reflecting off our three tracks on the big curve between Glen Ellyn and Wheaton. I didn't comment on it at the time, even though I was riding in a truck driven by one popular Mudchicken. I'm sure he saw it, too (our car was being driven by Pat, with Boss Hen as a passenger).

I think my first experience with glint was a lot like the one posted by Alex Mayes. I was in the cupola of a caboose on the end of the Grand Trunk's hot (seemingly) freight train from Durand to Muskegon. The sun was setting as we approached Grand Rapids, and managed to catch the sides of the trailers on the piggyback cars just ahead of the caboose--one car, one pair of trailers, at a time. The trailers themselves were white or aluminum, but the reflected colors from the sunset were an interesting combination of oranges and purples. Due to the hills east of the Grand River, the presence of the sun was just for a very short time, in just the right location. That sight was probably one of the more severe instances of being bitten by the railroad bug that I had. I've found it best not to say anything at times like these, because it's hard to keep a steady voice.

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Posted by blhanel on Monday, May 10, 2010 4:02 PM

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Glad to have the good news from you, Brian! Are there many trains to see from your penthouse balcony?

You'll probably be encouraged to walk, but to avoid more strenuous exercise, possibly including stairs, for the next few days. No heavy lifting. (Been there, done that.)

I haven't noticed any movements, although there was a string of covered hoppers parked on the new CRANDIC river bridge that have since been moved- my attention keeps getting distracted (walks around the ward, visitors, etc.).  Also, the weather is not very nice here today.

Someone's already come by and signed me up for the cardiac exercise classes, but I've yet to see my doctors- probably later this evening.  I should be going home in the morning.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, May 10, 2010 3:52 PM
Glad to have the good news from you, Brian! Are there many trains to see from your penthouse balcony?

You'll probably be encouraged to walk, but to avoid more strenuous exercise, possibly including stairs, for the next few days. No heavy lifting. (Been there, done that.)

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Monday, May 10, 2010 3:34 PM

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CShaveRR
Our best wishes to Brian Hanel, who is, possibly as we speak, undergoing an angioplasty today. He says there's about an 85-percent chance that he'll need either stents or a bypass. I hope we'll hear some news later today.

 

Your wish is my command, thanks to laptop and free hospital wireless service.  I am now the proud owner of one stent, and already am feeling better than I've felt in awhile.  Gotta spend the night here at the Mercy Medical Center Hilton, though... at least I've got a nice view of downtown.

Glad you're doing ok Brian!  Here's hoping you recover quickly.

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Posted by blhanel on Monday, May 10, 2010 2:32 PM

CShaveRR
Our best wishes to Brian Hanel, who is, possibly as we speak, undergoing an angioplasty today. He says there's about an 85-percent chance that he'll need either stents or a bypass. I hope we'll hear some news later today.

 

Your wish is my command, thanks to laptop and free hospital wireless service.  I am now the proud owner of one stent, and already am feeling better than I've felt in awhile.  Gotta spend the night here at the Mercy Medical Center Hilton, though... at least I've got a nice view of downtown.

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Monday, May 10, 2010 12:08 PM

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Today was the final clean up/out day for the Oshkosh Model Railroad Club.  We are 100% moved out of our old home and into a storage unit for (hopefully) a short while.  While going through some of the club's belongings we came across some RR artifacts: marble eye or "Cat's Eye" cross bucks.  I have 4 of them now in my garage.  All are from CNW ROW when a line was reclaimed and ripped up in the early 80s...and legally obtained.  The question is now...what the heck do I do with 'em? 

That would seem to be a good item for rail-oriented museums in the C&NW's territory, if they don't already have one. Maybe some e-mails to them would be a way to find out. Meantime- since I'm not familiar with them - how about a photo of one, or a link to am on-line photo ? - Paul North.

It's on another forum...er..."three"um I visit.  14th post down (same screen name):
http://www.fuzzyworld3.com/3um/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4824

I have already sold one of them and have leads on some others.  I have an email in to MCRM in Baraboo...

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Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, May 10, 2010 8:10 AM
Our best wishes to Brian Hanel, who is, possibly as we speak, undergoing an angioplasty today. He says there's about an 85-percent chance that he'll need either stents or a bypass. I hope we'll hear some news later today.

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Monday, May 10, 2010 5:10 AM
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Today was the final clean up/out day for the Oshkosh Model Railroad Club.  We are 100% moved out of our old home and into a storage unit for (hopefully) a short while.  While going through some of the club's belongings we came across some RR artifacts: marble eye or "Cat's Eye" cross bucks.  I have 4 of them now in my garage.  All are from CNW ROW when a line was reclaimed and ripped up in the early 80s...and legally obtained.  The question is now...what the heck do I do with 'em? 

That would seem to be a good item for rail-oriented museums in the C&NW's territory, if they don't already have one. Maybe some e-mails to them would be a way to find out. Meantime- since I'm not familiar with them - how about a photo of one, or a link to am on-line photo ? - Paul North.
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Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, May 9, 2010 5:41 PM
In some railfanning circles, the name Ken Meeker was familiar. He was a photographer, and wrote a news column for Pacific News. Ken passed away yesterday, after a lengthy illness. Our condolences to his family and friends.

Condolences to one of our own, as well: Randy Vos' paternal grandmother passed away today.

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Posted by AgentKid on Sunday, May 9, 2010 4:54 PM

zardoz
actual working radio

 

But wasn't that a whole other thing back in the seventies.

My father was dispatching in Calgary then, and he had many stories about those early radio's. He normally worked third trick east from Calgary to Swift Current, SK. It was about as flat a territory as you could imagine. But he used to tell about trains that could talk to each other over 100 miles apart but they couldn't raise a train that they were supposed to meet 20 or 25 miles away.

This was before they had repeater technology and the effects of weather figured out. He thought radio's were useful, eventually, but he never did give a train order over one. He retired before the end of time table and train order operations.

Bruce

 

So shovel the coal, let this rattler roll.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, May 9, 2010 4:45 PM
Caught the tail end of another Lilacia Park tour after work today. A loaded coal train came through while we were in the park, and after the tour I took the guide to a special dinner at the Italian restaurant that took the place of my old favorite barbecue place. While we were there, we saw two scoots and three assorted freights.

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Posted by zardoz on Sunday, May 9, 2010 12:21 PM

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And the things that had to be installed and removed from engines had to weigh 30 or 40 pounds!

Yeah, I remember those. About 18" long, 12" wide, and about 4" deep (IIRC). But I always felt is was worth lugging the thing up and down the ladders, just to have an actual working radio on the lead locomotive (even if we had to "borrow" it from a different loco in the shop).
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Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, May 9, 2010 5:31 AM
mudchicken

Just back from volunteering at the railroad musem ...In addition to "Goose-Fest" with RGS Goose #5 making laps around the museum grounds, we had a social function with the Quilt Museum, the local quilters and the RR Museum .....the promotional flyers all had a heavilly photo-shopped CNW logo.

Maybe we call it "Shaver Fest" next year?

If they coordinate trains and quilts next year, let us know ahead of time--it would be worth heading that way for!

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Posted by The Butler on Sunday, May 9, 2010 12:10 AM

Enjoyed the photos, Larry.  I hope to see more.

They made me wonder, just how far apart are yard tracks?

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Posted by mudchicken on Saturday, May 8, 2010 10:43 PM

Just back from volunteering at the railroad musem ...In addition to "Goose-Fest" with RGS Goose #5 making laps around the museum grounds, we had a social function with the Quilt Museum, the local quilters and the RR Museum .....the promotional flyers all had a heavilly photo-shopped CNW logo.

Maybe we call it "Shaver Fest" next year?

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Posted by CShaveRR on Saturday, May 8, 2010 8:13 PM
Found this on my Facebook page, courtesy of my son-in-law's dad:

"A man loves his sweetheart the most, his wife the best, but his mother the longest." ~Irish Proverb

Wishing all the ladies out there, mothers and grandmothers alike, still with us, or dearly departed, a great Mother's Day tomorrow. May your, children, grandchildren, and your spouses, shower you with wonderful blessings and memories on your special day.

Those of you who are mothers, enjoy your day tomorrow! Those of you who have had mothers, please see the preceding paragraph for suggestions...

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Saturday, May 8, 2010 5:03 PM

Today was the final clean up/out day for the Oshkosh Model Railroad Club.  We are 100% moved out of our old home and into a storage unit for (hopefully) a short while.  While going through some of the club's belongings we came across some RR artifacts: marble eye or "Cat's Eye" cross bucks.  I have 4 of them now in my garage.  All are from CNW ROW when a line was reclaimed and ripped up in the early 80s...and legally obtained.  The question is now...what the heck do I do with 'em? 

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Posted by CShaveRR on Saturday, May 8, 2010 4:53 PM
Those are great pictures, Larry! Looking forward to seeing more when you get a chance.

You're right about those radios, too--they're even bigger than the ones we started out with. Hand-held radios were around, and getting common by the time I'd been there a few months, but most of the road guys and a few yard folks still had to use the kind with a receiver on the handle. And the things that had to be installed and removed from engines had to weigh 30 or 40 pounds!

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Posted by tree68 on Saturday, May 8, 2010 4:09 PM

I was forced into a little cleaning today (had to find something, and I knew about where it was - so had to dig).

In doing so, I found a binder with the pictures I used for my portfolio for a B&W photo class back in my junior college days (early 80's).  All are printed on 8x10 paper, so they make for good scanning.

One project we had to do was playing with orthographic film, negatives, etc.  So I posed some of my N Scale motive power under the enlarger, with this result:

http://www.tree68.net/Railroad/OrthoN.jpg

While on the model bent, here's my Chessie GP-40 and a couple of hoppers, on the rail:

http://www.tree68.net/Railroad/NonRail.jpg

One day I chased a local (that included some street running at the time).  After they finished their work they headed back to the yard.  Literally.  The locomotive is actually pushing, with a real, live caboose on the leading end.

http://www.tree68.net/Railroad/CRLocal.jpg

Before they left me, though, I got a picture of the crew - unfortunately I don't have any names, and I'm not sure which one was the conductor.  Check out those radios, though!

http://www.tree68.net/Railroad/CRCrew.jpg

This picture is impossible to repeat today.  The track leading off to the right once ran to the NYC station in Watertown, NY.  The siding to the left leads to a now-closed feed mill.  I was standing on the main (oops!), which continues down the hill and eventually on to Massena.

http://www.tree68.net/Railroad/Arsenal.jpg

Who says storing cars is just a current phenomenon?  These Railbox cars were being stored at Massey Yard in Watertown:

http://www.tree68.net/Railroad/Railbox.jpg

I worked at Ft Drum, NY during sleepier times (it's pretty busy there now, railwise) and was able to wander the "coal" yard unmolested one wintry day.

The hill visible at the right, with the fence on top, was actually the unloading ramp for coal hoppers.  The trestle was long gone at the time, and the ramp itself is gone now, too:

http://www.tree68.net/Railroad/DrumRail.jpg

I just can't resist a ladder track:

http://www.tree68.net/Railroad/DrumLadder.jpg

Enjoy.  There are more prints in the binder.  I'll scan them in later.

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