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Posted by nanaimo73 on Monday, June 7, 2010 3:16 PM

You might have to wait until Thursday. Game 7s are good.

Meanwhile, is your line through O'Hare going to be affected if the airport expands to the southwest?
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Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, June 7, 2010 2:48 PM
I like the way you're thinking, Dale! Though I probably should just go to work and watch the fireworks from there.

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Posted by nanaimo73 on Monday, June 7, 2010 1:19 PM

CShaveRR
Now if only I could remember where it was I had to go again Wednesday morning...

To O'Hare, to welcome the Stanley Cup Champions home?

Hey, its close to work, isn't it?

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Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, June 7, 2010 1:09 PM
Dusting and cleaning the place just to send a birthday greeting to our engineering guru, the Mudchicken! Hope you're having an enjoyable day (forgive me for forgetting it every year--it should be easy to remember since you share it with my energetic and impressionable four-year-old granddaughter).

Let's see...mail resumed, car's oil changed, shopping lists all set, library books returned, grass about to be cut. Now if only I could remember where it was I had to go again Wednesday morning...

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Posted by CShaveRR on Saturday, June 5, 2010 8:10 AM
There is a railfan brochure for the Fostoria area that I should have read before yesterday's post--it mentioned the Erie-Sistable, and also the possibility that it might be returned to the railfan park when it's done!

Yesterday wasn't supposed to be a trip for trains, but these things have a way of filling in. We decided to go a little further than we'd expected to search for more quilt shops, and saw an ad for one in Wyandotte, a town along the Detroit River south and west of Detroit. The ad gave directions to get there that included "cross four sets of railroad tracks", and that the house was on a corner just beyond the tracks. How could we pass that one up?

I had expected that there might have been just a grade crossing with four tracks, two or three of them having not been used in a while, but this time "four sets of tracks" was really four distinct, parallel main lines! The crossing tags identified them as CN, CR, CR, and CN (obviously in either direction). There was an attractive, but abandoned, stone station between the two "CR" lines, and an NS coal train went through soon after we arrived.

Back in the home office now...the four tracks, tracks, west to east, were the Detroit & Toledo Shore Line, Lake Shore & Michigan Southern, Michigan Central, and Detroit, Toledo & Ironton.

Coming back closer to the bank of the river, we drove past defunct steel mills (and evidence of the railroads that once served them, and the deer that reclaimed their areas). About the only major industry that we saw along this road was the BASF Corporation (formerly Wyandotte Chemicals)--everything else appeared to be locked up or bombed out. And once one entered Detroit, the other buildings (bars, houses, stores, etc.) took on the same appearance.

We actually saw a people-mover in motion in downtown Detroit, before heading out via freeway to the suburbs that thrived because of their proximity to Woodward Avenue (Michigan Highway 1) and the Grand Trunk Western, which offered or hosted commuter service well into the 1970s. Amtrak currently makes stops in Royal Oak and Birmingham, and those are two of the best-looking suburban downtowns on this side of town. They put me in mind of Oak Park or Evanston, here at home.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Friday, June 4, 2010 7:04 AM
Willy2

Sounds like you're having a good trip, Carl! Just out of curiosity, what is the Erie-Sistable? It must not be so irresistible if you resisted.

Next stop is Omaha, right? Cool

Willy, the Erie-Sistable is a small pleasure boat, blue and white, very ancient (I think it's actually wood, and not fiberglass or whatever they use nowadays). It used to sit outside a good-sized factory near the CSX (C&O)/NS (NKP) diamond at Fostoria, which was my favorite location for watching the action in town. They're talking about building a railfan park in that area, and the old factory was leveled, and I had assumed that the boat had been destroyed. But it hadn't. It is a cute little thing, almost cartoonish.

More interesting things in the city. A couple of lots down Main Street from the antique shop we visited was a piece of sidewalk, where asphalt had been paved over some dark red glazed clay blocks, presumably from the Nelsonville (Ohio) Block Company. The red/brown glaze was needed, as the brick would have been a dull gray in color otherwise. The same style of blocks was used on the platform at the station in Marion. Even more interesting, the curb between this sidewalk and the street's pavement was wooden! Slightly mossy in places, too.

Omaha? Not this trip, I'm afraid. We just realized that we should have been going to Galesburg, where we need to pick up a quilt that Pat had lent them for display at Bishop Hill. That will be our next day trip--soon, I suspect!

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Posted by Deggesty on Thursday, June 3, 2010 11:33 PM

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Everyone sleeps thru Lincoln!  Sigh

Even the enginemen?

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Posted by Deggesty on Thursday, June 3, 2010 11:31 PM

CShaveRR
Low-maintenance Lounge here--I have to come in every once in a while to keep the cobwebs away.

 

We just got back from a lovely lunch with Johnny and Ricki Degges (we all know Johnny as "Deggesty"). They are on an amazing cross-country (and then some!) trip via Amtrak and rental cars, and we persuaded them to put Lombard on their route. Three trains went past during the hour that we were in the restaurant.

 

We had borrowed a wheelchair, and after lunch gave Johnny and Ricki the narrated, guided tour of Lilacia Park, where another stack train went past us. The tour was shortened by the threatening, and occasionally rainy, skies (we skipped the weeping mulberry trees and Rastus), but the park was pretty, even without the lilacs and tulips--we learned that people from Utah really appreciate lots of green planty things!

Persuaded? I had hoped that we would be able to get together, and had let Carl know what times we would be in Chicago this trip so he could work out the best time according to his (and Pat’s) schedule. As it was, we stopped in Lombard for lunch with them at the Main Street Café (we now know why they eat there so often that they are well-known by the staff), and then an all too short walk in the Park. We stopped there on our way from Evanston (where Ricki lived from her birth until shortly the family moved to Memphis) where we saw the current version of the hospital where she was born and the apartment and the two houses where she lived (we saw the house in Lake Forest where they lived just before moving) to Bolingbrook, where one of my nephews and his wife live.

Except for another visit to Memphis, we have finished Ricki’s memorabilia of this trip, and I have a third one of my four living sisters-in-law to visit.

We arrived in Portland this morning, rented a car, and drove to where we think we met (introduced by a freight train), and we leave for sunny California tomorrow.

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Thursday, June 3, 2010 11:01 PM

...or a short jaunt an hour north of Milwaukee?

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Posted by Willy2 on Thursday, June 3, 2010 10:20 PM

Sounds like you're having a good trip, Carl! Just out of curiosity, what is the Erie-Sistable? It must not be so irresistible if you resisted.

Next stop is Omaha, right? Cool

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Posted by CShaveRR on Thursday, June 3, 2010 9:28 PM
Another day of interesting train-watching!

While we were still at breakfast in Toledo, Joe called us to tell us that CSX had derailed cars from a coal train in Fostoria (C&O side), and both of those diamonds were blocked. When we got down there, this diamonds were cleared, and CSX was running plenty of trains on the B&O side. After calling Joe back to update him, we checked north of the diamonds and found R. J. Corman and gang rerailing a car; nothing else appeared to be on the ground. Most of the time we hung out at the B&O/NS diamond by the old passenger station, since we knew that we wouldn't see much on that other route. I think we were close to the diamonds for about seven trains, all on the B&O side (two of them turned south on the old C&O). An NS train was waiting west of town for something we couldn't figure out (CSX's signals were red at this point).

But between trains, we explored the city like we'd never done before. It's really a sad place--a lot of once-magnificent houses fallen into various stages of disrepair, and plenty of abandoned factories near the tracks and vacant businesses downtown. We found an antique store that advertised "trains and glass"--not much of the former in the store itself, unfortunately.

And guess what...we found the current location of the Erie-Sistable! It's behind a fence on a factory site north and east of the diamonds. We resisted.

Spent a total of a good three hours in the city. We will definitely go back again!

Currently mooching internet privileges from my sister in eastern Michigan...not much railfanning activity planned for the rest of the trip, with quilt stores and the Meijer Gardens in Grand Rapids to visit.

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, June 3, 2010 3:13 AM

mudchicken
The F9A is a refugee from Yakima Washington (Temple Industries Washington Central's Spirit Dinner Train)....

In which case I may have ridden behind it while that operation was still running. 

Running an F backwards is a real pain.

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Posted by Modelcar on Wednesday, June 2, 2010 10:44 PM

CShaveRR
Yes, Quentin--we were on 70 from the outskirts of Indianapolis to Broad Street in Columbus. This was early afternoon.

 

In that case....we passed within 200' {or closer}, of each other someplace along 70....

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, June 2, 2010 9:21 PM
Yes, Quentin--we were on 70 from the outskirts of Indianapolis to Broad Street in Columbus. This was early afternoon.

Today was a train day--we went from Columbus to Marion, where we saw several CSX and NS trains going past the station/tower/railfan-site/eating spot. Joe and Matt joined us fairly early on, along with Greg Zoll, a friend of theirs (who doesn't post here). We had lunch at The Shovel (about three stars). I was pleasantly surprised to see a couple of CSX trains move smartly from the former EL line to the former NYC line via a high-speed crossover just west of the diamonds, but was also dismayed to see the mud-fouled ballast on the same ex-NYC line right in front of the station. Pat commented on the fountains of water coming up every time a truck passed over one spot in particular.

We went from Marion through Kenton, which used to be the site of the International Car Company's production plant for many, if not most, of the cabooses built during the late 1960s and early 1970s. It's only remaining claim to fame is that it was the home of Jacob (?) Parrott, the recipient of the first-ever Congressional Medal of Honor in 1863. So what? He got it because he was one of the Union participants in the 1862 Andrews Raid--a.k.a. The Great Locomotive Chase.

We stopped at Lima to visit the Allen County Museum, which has a tremendous archive of railroad artifacts. Those aren't visible to most visitors, but the rest of the museum is pretty neat, too. Before we left, we found out that Matt not only will consume your fries, he will also gladly operate your model railroad layout. By the time Pat and I got into that room, he was controlling two or three HO-scale trains on this good-sized layout!

Supper was at Defiance, a relatively short distance away from Lima. Matt and Joe again joined us at The Station, which has a decent view of action on both the Maumee & Western and the ex-B&O main line of CSX. MAW surprised us twice--they pulled their cars off the interchange track (there were a lot of them!), and they had both of their locomotives here in town--an ATSF CF7 (its current number, 5, was the third digit of its original number; it was lettered CNUR), and an ex-IC Geep, numbered 16. CSX also sent a stacker through. Again, three stars on the meal--neither Pat nor I liked the cole slaw, but they did substitute applesauce for our fries--Joe was the only one from whom Matt could mooch tonight! We dropped those two off at their home, but not before Joe gave us the "dollar tour" of Defiance and the things that distinguish the place. CSX cooperated with three more freights.

So tonight it's Toledo, tomorrow morning it's Fostoria! C'mon out and introduce yourselves!

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Posted by Modelcar on Wednesday, June 2, 2010 9:59 AM

CShaveRR
Getting ready to hit the road today from Columbus. Didn't see much rail traffic at all yesterday, except for a CSX move right in downtown Columbus.

 

Carl.....From your note written in Columbus....it appears we passed each other rather close yesterday.  Passed thru Columbus on {straight thru}, I-70 yesterday {Tuesday}, about 1 pm headed for Indiana, returning from Pennsylvania.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, June 2, 2010 6:50 AM
Thanks, all, for livening up the place. I guess popcorn would be OK, Chad...but please, no cuspidors!

Getting ready to hit the road today from Columbus. Didn't see much rail traffic at all yesterday, except for a CSX move right in downtown Columbus. We went to a few quilt shops (I'll be getting a new shirt!), and to the Columbus Museum of Art for an exhibit of works by Dale Chihuly, who has to be Pat's favorite artist.

Today, we'll be going to Marion, Ohio, where we should see a few more trains. If Joe can make it, he and Matt will join us there. If not, we'll see them in Defiance for supper.

Dan, is Aedan a good traveler over the long distances? I hope so!

Cuspidors...blecch!

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Tuesday, June 1, 2010 7:01 PM

Finally back from the trip to Kansas...would've hit the "hog law" on the road about 40 minutes to home yesterday but we had to get there.  Trip report and pics to follow once I get a chance to get things processed and posted.

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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, June 1, 2010 2:59 PM

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Willy2

If Utah is anything like Arizona, and I'm sure it is in some places, then I can see why they like green things!

Do you know if they are coming through Omaha on their way back to Utah?

Willy, there are some green spots in Utah, but nothing at all like what we saw when driing up and down the Shenadoah Valley

As to Omaha, we will be passing through on #5 Friday week. I expect we will be asleep (and, Mookie, I expect we will be asleep when we pass through Lincoln).

Everyone sleeps thru Lincoln!  Sigh

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Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, June 1, 2010 2:07 PM

Chad:

The F9A is a refugee from Yakima Washington (Temple Industries Washington Central's Spirit Dinner Train)....Wondered where that rascal (#82 or #84) got to. It has a cousin, F7A #101 somewhere, probably Yakima (at one point, there were 4 A's and a B unit, most of the others are near you in the Carrizoso Gorge).

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Posted by Deggesty on Tuesday, June 1, 2010 9:09 AM

Willy2

If Utah is anything like Arizona, and I'm sure it is in some places, then I can see why they like green things!

Do you know if they are coming through Omaha on their way back to Utah?

Willy, there are some green spots in Utah, but nothing at all like what we saw when driing up and down the Shenadoah Valley

As to Omaha, we will be passing through on #5 Friday week. I expect we will be asleep (and, Mookie, I expect we will be asleep when we pass through Lincoln).

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Posted by blhanel on Tuesday, June 1, 2010 7:01 AM

chad thomas

 Has anybody heard from Chris (Copcar) lately??? His photographic talents are missed Wink.

He's been around, but not as much- we keep in touch more on Facebook and fuzzybroken's 3-um (http://www.fuzzyworld3.com/3um/index.php) than on here.

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Posted by chad thomas on Tuesday, June 1, 2010 2:38 AM

 Has anybody heard from Chris (Copcar) lately??? His photographic talents are missed Wink.

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Posted by chad thomas on Tuesday, June 1, 2010 2:14 AM

 Hey Carl, I t looks like you have been spending too much time in here by yourself Wink. Perhaps I should help knock down the cobwebs, mabee even set up the popcorn machine Big Smile.

 

Well,'railfanning is like a box of chocolates, you never know quite what you're gunna git' .

Just about the last thing I expected to see, especially on the west coast, was this:

A F unit in regular freight service in 2010???Confused. Nevertheless I caught this train approaching the US Gypsum plant in Plaster City, Calif last week.  I suspect this is a unit from Campo ( the Pacific Southwest Rail Museum) leased to to operator of the old Corizzo George line and this was the daily (?bi-daily or whatever) eastbound run to UP because the F was behind the train (as if it ran around at the previous sideing to work US Gypsum's yard). There were covered hoppers (sand from Campo) and tank cars (? water or some other non wallboard product) in the mix.

 

I also happend to pass by the US Gypsum plant at Empire, Nv.a couple days later where I found a massive stageing area for the Ruby pipeline project has sprung up. 


 

Also the UP is putting quite a bit of resources into fixing up the former Modoc Northern, nee Lake co. Ry., Great Western, SP, NCO... Lakeview branch for stageing a large quantity of pipe  (not sure if it's the same Ruby pipeline or not and haven't taken the time to look into it, but probably is).

 

 

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Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, May 31, 2010 7:09 PM
Current plans put them through Omaha on June 11 on the train. It's a fascinating itinerary--today was the third time they've been in Chicagoland on this trip; one more to go!

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Posted by Willy2 on Monday, May 31, 2010 3:54 PM

CShaveRR
Low-maintenance Lounge here--I have to come in every once in a while to keep the cobwebs away.

 

We just got back from a lovely lunch with Johnny and Ricki Degges (we all know Johnny as "Deggesty"). They are on an amazing cross-country (and then some!) trip via Amtrak and rental cars, and we persuaded them to put Lombard on their route. Three trains went past during the hour that we were in the restaurant.

 

We had borrowed a wheelchair, and after lunch gave Johnny and Ricki the narrated, guided tour of Lilacia Park, where another stack train went past us. The tour was shortened by the threatening, and occasionally rainy, skies (we skipped the weeping mulberry trees and Rastus), but the park was pretty, even without the lilacs and tulips--we learned that people from Utah really appreciate lots of green planty things!

If Utah is anything like Arizona, and I'm sure it is in some places, then I can see why they like green things!

Do you know if they are coming through Omaha on their way back to Utah?

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Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, May 31, 2010 2:53 PM
Low-maintenance Lounge here--I have to come in every once in a while to keep the cobwebs away.

We just got back from a lovely lunch with Johnny and Ricki Degges (we all know Johnny as "Deggesty"). They are on an amazing cross-country (and then some!) trip via Amtrak and rental cars, and we persuaded them to put Lombard on their route. Three trains went past during the hour that we were in the restaurant.

We had borrowed a wheelchair, and after lunch gave Johnny and Ricki the narrated, guided tour of Lilacia Park, where another stack train went past us. The tour was shortened by the threatening, and occasionally rainy, skies (we skipped the weeping mulberry trees and Rastus), but the park was pretty, even without the lilacs and tulips--we learned that people from Utah really appreciate lots of green planty things!

Carl

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Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, May 30, 2010 9:04 PM
CShaveRR
It now appears that UP 1983 and 2001 will be joining the 6936 at Franklin Park the first weekend in June.
Nope--they have now gone out on various runs, and the WP unit's on its way back home. I guess, if Omaha's the equivalent of Mount Olympus, the 2001 is headed home as well--on MPRCB.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Friday, May 28, 2010 5:12 PM
It now appears that UP 1983 and 2001 will be joining the 6936 at Franklin Park the first weekend in June.

And for another Railroad Days being held the same weekend, UP 2010 (the recently-introduced Boy Scout Centennial unit) is supposed to be at Rochelle.

Decisions, decisions...Or just go see 'em all!

Another special unit, UP Olympic SD70M 2002, was seen being relayed to the departure tracks to take MPRCB out of town today.

As for UP 6936, the big brute's in Nebraska now, still headed east. Ought to be good for daylight from roughly Marshalltown, Iowa, east to Rochelle, if the current schedule holds. It'll reportedly head out of Rochelle that night on a train bound for Global 2. If that holds up, it will be around Proviso for a couple of days--but I wouldn't count on it being anywhere the public can find it (and it's definitely uncool for a railroader to show up at work during his vacation!)

R.I.P. Gary Coleman--his modeling work was featured in MR once.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Friday, May 28, 2010 5:39 AM
I wish she'd do more of these, and hope she got her papers graded!

I posted yesterday morning about the trains going by while I was at the computer. Today seems busier--there have been at least a half-dozen freights going past, and I'm writing this after only 40 minutes or so of being up. There's a scoot stopping at the station now. In the quiet hours of the morning one can usually distinguish between EMD and GE units, and hear the flat wheels on the train (no, that doesn't make me hungry!).

Pat and I were knocked for a couple of loops yesterday: one of our dear friends from church (and a Facebook friend as well), a champion of mothers' causes, and a mother of six herself, passed away in her sleep the night before last, at age 61. The cause has not been determined. Then last evening I found out that a young railfan and photographer friend of mine from British Columbia has cancer--ovarian and uterine cancer, at age 16. Pat and I are both feeling very thankful to be awake and healthy this morning, but also still reeling from the twin shocks.

I'll be monitoring UP 6936's progress today, as it heads toward arrival at Rochelle Saturday morning. I think it may have picked up on its schedule a bit; it's currently in Wyoming.

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Posted by AgentKid on Thursday, May 27, 2010 5:49 PM

CShaveRR
Evidently that aspect of the "job" has affected her a bit.

 

My school teaching sister seems to get "affected" the same way too, at times.Laugh

I enjoyed your daughter's notes

Bruce

 

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