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Posted by blhanel on Tuesday, February 2, 2010 9:39 PM

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That woodchuck (yes, I know how to spell Punxsutawney) saw his shadow this morning. Now, if we could only hold him to his prediction that spring will begin on March 16. We should be so lucky!

Yep - If he sees his shadow, we're in for six more weeks of winter.

If he doesn't, spring will be here in about a month and a half...

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Posted by AgentKid on Wednesday, February 3, 2010 3:56 PM

I hope everyone here gets a chance to look at the video on the thread "Train Watching with rail fan friends" on the Classic Trains forums. It is about two young boys watching a crew doing some switching. It is the way I spent my life as an "AgentKid" for years. As the expression goes "nice work if you can get it!"

I first saw the video last night and my mood has been better ever since.Big Smile

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, February 3, 2010 4:43 PM
Thanks to the folks in the Diner for mentioning that today is Jay Eaton's birthday. Hope it's been good to you, Jay, and have a great year!

(Going away right now to look at the video Bruce referenced.)

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, February 3, 2010 5:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXDKrEnmT3c

Nothing spectacular, but in the eyes and minds of the right people (Bruce and me, for example), it will bring a nostalgic rush. And a wish that we could do this for our own kids (and, in my case, grandchildren). Not everybody has access to a yard like this (I know I sure don't!).

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, February 3, 2010 5:49 PM

Cute video.  Reminds me of another young railfan some of us know.

Happy birthday, Jay!

Stopped at the fire station the other day and found a large envelope marked to my attention.  One of our members was in a old station now being used by a feed and farm supply store.  He came away with several interesting items. 

Newest was a pictorial calendar entitled "Railroading 1979."  Curiously, it was all steam locomotives - all the more interesting because a number of them are still under steam.  Conway Scenic 47 (now known as 7470 and still in service), Roaring Camp and Big Trees #2, "Jupiter", Sierra RR #28, "Edison" at Greenfield Village - still in service, California Western #46 (on the "Super Skunk"), Huckleberry #2 in Flint, MI (still in steam), Knott's Berry Farm # 40 (possibly the current 340?), "Engine #3 at Virginia City", Mt Washington's "Col. Teague" (#10 - possibly now called "Kroflight"),  Edaville #7, and Calistoga #1913 - a 1/3 scale Pacific.

The other calendar is a 1964 appointment calendar, side bound, from the P&LE.  Noteworthy here is that the art for each month was done by Howard Fogg. 

Both calendars are pristine.

From a historical standpoint, the most significant piece is the mimeographed "Standing of Passenger Conductors, St Lawrence and Ontario Divisions" dated January 1, 1919.  I want to scan it, but the pages are extremely brittle.  We'll see.

The most senior conductor has a seniority date of July 4, 1882.  Beginning in 1901, most of the names listed also have a freight date as well, with the oldest being March 1, 1892.

The list also has brakemen, with the most senior listed as 1875, no month given.

Many of these folks would have started with the Rome, Watertown, and Ogdensburg (or one of the predecessors thereof).

Fascinating stuff.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, February 3, 2010 7:06 PM
Larry, I had the same thoughts...that's a much younger version of Matt, and also of Nora's boys. I know Matt has grown beyond that, and probably so have Jay and Chuck--who may also have become jaded from living right up against a busy main line.

Let's see...from 1875 to the beginning of 1919--that's 43 years and counting. Some folks currently working on the railroad might be able to reach that, but you can now go after 30 years (at age 60) with full benefits. I will have 39 years in by the end of this month, and I probably won't hang around to see 40.

Amazing what can come from friends you don't realize you had, or from relatives that you didn't know had a railroading connection. Years ago I received a good-sized amount of china and other memorabilia from a cousin of my mother-in-law (she passed away this year at the age of 98): her dad had worked for a railroad, I think, but the collection suggested a fondness for train travel.

Not sure, but I think John W. Barriger was still president of the P&LE in 1964. His hiring Howard Fogg to do the calendar art was truly a class act.

Oh...thank goodness I gave credit to the people who originally posted the premature information. Jay Eaton's big day is tomorrow, I guess.

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Wednesday, February 3, 2010 7:43 PM

To pass on one's affinity for something to the next generation...that's priceless.  I can't wait to have experiences like that with my little guy (not so little...try picking him up!) but that will come with time.

Carl and Larry (anyone else too!)-
Does the prospect of being retired make you nervous?  My father equated it to not being needed anymore...and was quite antsy about it.

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, February 3, 2010 7:44 PM

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Not sure, but I think John W. Barriger was still president of the P&LE in 1964. His hiring Howard Fogg to do the calendar art was truly a class act.

His "signature" is on the preface to the calendar, so you have that right, on both counts.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, February 3, 2010 8:42 PM
Dan, it really does make me nervous, but not because I won't be (or feel) needed any more. At that point, I won't care whether the railroad "needs" me. I know they will miss me (my talents, hobbies, and character make me unique), and I hope it won't be like one misses a toothache after the dental work is done. But I'm more concerned about being able to afford retirement, particularly the insurance aspect of things. My little health scare is over for now, which eases my mind a bit--but we both have some dental work in the offing, and there some unanswered questions that Pat is looking into at the moment about her health. There is also the fact that I will be losing some of my best sources of information once I leave. I know that retirement is a momentous step, and every retiree I've talked to seems glad to be out of it. And being part of a small seniority roster makes it a little more personal, especially in this trying time: by moving along, I know the people who will benefit by being able to hold positions, and I'll be happy to give them the chance. (The larger yard-foreman seniority roster will scarcely notice when I go.)

The need will be elsewhere: the things I'd like to do but don't have time for, the places I'd like to go but couldn't afford the time off, and the grandchildren whom I hope will be admirers of the nicer side of railroading when I can show that to them.

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, February 3, 2010 9:11 PM

Carl - Trust me.  You'll wonder how you ever found time to go to work.

The biggest danger is with the folks for whom working was their life.  No hobbies, no outside interests.  When they retire, they are lost.

A concern of mine was simply human contact - something you take for granted when you see the people at work every day.  I'm getting around enough to see people, so it hasn't been an issue.

I've been missed at work (and I have the emails to prove it), but they're getting by.  It's tough trying to pass along everything about a rather complex system in the few weeks I had to get my replacement up to speed - and he is only filling in until the permanent replacement comes on board.

I haven't missed work yet, though.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Thursday, February 4, 2010 5:22 AM
Larry, in my job, my "human contact" is purely with the people I relieve and am relieved by, and over the intercom system. (Unless I have a student, which I did yesterday, and was supposed to today, but he's sick.)

Railroading is my life, but working at it won't have to be.

I feel good about the people who have trained under me. They do well in their jobs. I fear, however, that there may eventually be changes in their job description, and that if I were to return, even for a visit, that I would be lost. But I'm sure I will return from time to time--I think I'd disappoint a lot of people if I didn't.

Well, off to work! Time to break/make the freight trains.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Thursday, February 4, 2010 5:27 AM
Oh...and happy birthday, Jay Eaton! Hope you have a great day, and a great, healthy year! (No need to reply--your work is probably very taxing at this point!)

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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, February 4, 2010 7:58 AM

I retired rather suddenly and not by choice, so it took me about 6 months to figure out a new routine.  But just like adjusting to a new job, you figure it out with time.  The first thing you will enjoy is the not having to meet deadlines each and every day.  Life is a slower pace if you aren't always having to answer an alarm clock. 

Even without set hobbies, I have still managed to keep busy.  I just pace myself a little more and follow a whole new routine.  I still answer an alarm at 5 am, but it is his alarm and not mine and once the car leaves the driveway, life slows down to a nice leisurely pace. 

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Posted by Modelcar on Thursday, February 4, 2010 10:17 AM

Retirement:  Lots of opinions.  Somehow I missed Larry and his retirement....Heard him talk about it, but not that he actually did do it....

It took me most of one year to decide to actually stop and really do it {After 37 years}....But certainly didn't cause much of a problem.  Soon headed to Florida for that first Winter and did that for about 8 years.

Both Jean and I  have been out of the work force now for some time....we're in the 17th year of it this year. 

If one can figure out the insurance situtation that goes a long way to comfort one.  We've managed to to that.  Company {former employer}, has set up reimbursement that helps us with the financing of such.  Found the Medicare Part D is really working for us and it's affordable for our meds.

We tried to have our home and peripherals in place by the time we retired and we did.....So....some of it hinges on health and we're all different on such subject, but so far we've managed to do quite well....

I did not have any bad feelings of not going to work anymore once I really did pull the plug.

Each of us of course has our own concerns and I suppose one must simply listen to our personal concerns and along with some outside info., make the decision......and don't look back.  Just my My 2 cents

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, February 4, 2010 5:34 PM

I'm fortunate that I can carry my insurance over (at a cost, of course), so that part isn't an issue.

As I've mentioned, having a lengthy list of potential projects helps a great deal - and new ones seem to crop up as well.

One really great thing is losing the 200 miles I drove to and from work each week, and the attendant cost.  So far I've managed to avoid many superfluous trips - in fact, it's about time for my weekly shopping excursion. 

If anything, I feel I could be doing more with my now-free time, but sometimes there's a good movie on and the Dal has settled into my lap, so unless there's a deadline involved (I run a small printshop, so that does happen), who cares?

I was able to clear out the bill box and cover the truck payment for a while with what they paid me for unused vacation, so right now all I have is the "usual" stuff.  That was definitely a goal.

I decided ages ago that I wanted out - I just had to wait until things came together. 

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Posted by CShaveRR on Thursday, February 4, 2010 7:38 PM
I broke/made the freight trains.

I also got a compliment from a hump conductor I never expected to get one from: He said, "I'm in no hurry to see you go."

Of course, when the older heads talk to me (and I had one come up today), the subject always turns to "When do you plan on going?"

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Posted by CShaveRR on Friday, February 5, 2010 3:40 PM
My student (actually re-training after a long stint as a yardmaster) was sick again today; I just hope that my brief exposure to him two days ago doesn't knock me out--can't afford that. Voice is not the best.

Folks whose main east-west Interstate highway carries a number about 20 below ours are in for some weather. We've had some snow falling now for a couple of hours, but we're not supposed to get more than an inch today and tonight. The temperature has already dropped below freezing, so we might see a little more than originally thought.

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Posted by Modelcar on Friday, February 5, 2010 6:14 PM

Carl.....Check my report in the diner.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Friday, February 5, 2010 7:03 PM
I did, Quentin! I wish our snow looked as good, but here it's accompanied by a stiff northeast wind, which doesn't make things too pleasant. We aren't getting the volume, though they now say that we might have two inches before this is over.

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Posted by The Butler on Friday, February 5, 2010 10:35 PM

I was in Mount Prospect, Ill. yesterday for Dad's 75th birthday.  Drove home today.  I saw one train the whole trip.  It was the Texas Eagle.  I saw it along Interstate 55 around 2-2:30 pm.  Engine number 40 was pulling seven cars.  I can't give a better description because I had the joy of driving in blowing, wet snow that stuck to the front of vehicles, for the last 300+ miles. Dead Sitting here at home, there is now two inches of heavy, wet snow on the ground. Sad

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Friday, February 5, 2010 10:58 PM

We had a "dusting" of snow today that was pretty wet.  Basically melted shortly after it hit the ground.  At least the roads didn't get too icy today.  Waiting for Aedan to get tired (currently bouncing in his ExerSaucer and giggling!) so I can get him to bed for the night.

Tomorrow brings some swimming with the little guy in the morning, some light maintenance of my truck and my wife's car around mid-day and then railfanning with the little one in the afternoon.  Should be a busy day.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Saturday, February 6, 2010 5:21 AM
We have a coating of snow on the sidewalk--you can still see the cracks through it. It looks like it may have frozen after it hit; I suspect that it'll be slippery out there if they haven't gotten to the roads yet.

Meanwhile, they're talking about some serious accumulation from a storm due to hit here on Monday and Tuesday. Had plans for a trip on Tuesday, now we'll have to see.

My student will be back with me today. I've got nothing against him, but I wish he'd have let me have my Saturday morning to myself.

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Posted by Modelcar on Saturday, February 6, 2010 11:19 AM

CShaveRR
We have a coating of snow on the sidewalk--you can still see the cracks through it.

Edited {Sun 7th}...Official count stands at 9.5" of snow from the storm.

That sounds good Carl.....Here, and we were more or less on the out limits of this weather system, there is no chance to see any seems in the sidewalks.  I'm guessing we received 6.5" of the stuff, but with 35 mph winds overnight, you can imagine it moved it around quite a bit....A 2 ft. plus, line of snow along the back side of the house where the wind reshaped it from blowing it off the roof.

Now, at noon....we have bright sunshine, an pretty, mostly blue skies.  26 degrees right now.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, February 7, 2010 3:12 PM
Well, it looks like our time is coming. Winter storm watch begins Monday night and ends Wednesday morning. We could get 6-10 inches of the stuff. Our original plan was for a trip into Michigan on Tuesday, but I'm not so sure about that now.

We pretty near cleaned out the receiving yard today--I think we left the afternoon guys (and gal) with two trains to hump, and not much projected to come in before dark. They're going to wish they had a television available to watch some football game or something.

Sure sign that a recent merger has happened: our CP transfer was pulled into the yard by a DM&E SD40-2.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, February 8, 2010 8:34 AM
Good morning! The watch has now become a warning, and we're in for 7 to 13 inches' worth of snow from tonight through Wednesday morning...followed by wind. Interestingly, this seems to be a lake-effect thing, since the only counties in Illinois under the warning are in the Chicago area--everyone else is under a "winter weather advisory".

Got a note from the Mudchicken; he's made it safely into the Chicago area, and may be hunkered down for a while. While I'd much rather be available to point out locations of interest (or research) for him, we're stuck with dental appointments this afternoon--both of us!

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, February 8, 2010 11:38 AM

At least you're not still digging out from the 2+ feet you got over the weekend.  The mid-Atlantic region is likely to be closed again on Wednesday.

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Monday, February 8, 2010 2:03 PM

Last forecast I saw for up this way was 8"-10" with the heavy stuff coming after midnight tonight through midnight tomorrow.  Guess I better get that snowblower fixed...

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Posted by rvos1979 on Monday, February 8, 2010 4:21 PM

Well, if my math is correct, we are supposed to get 9 to 17 inches of snow here in Burlington, and the wind is to pick up.  I might be spending an extra day at home, keeps one less truck off the road, we will see what the weather is like tomorrow morning before deciding.  Drove up to Terminal Hobby Shop in Milwaukee today, picked up more track and cars for new layout, as well as my scrap paper building for the paper mill I'm working on.  If I wind up staying home tomorrow, I'll have something to do.....

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Posted by AgentKid on Monday, February 8, 2010 5:32 PM

Well, I was away from Calgary for the first time since 2008 (Thurs.-Sun.), and wouldn't you know it, CN made the most significant operational change here in the last 30-35 years.

That was when they ceased operating into their downtown station. The discontinuance of through service between Calgary and Saskatoon, SK mentioned in TRAINS last year was also important.

CN announced on Thursday that they are going to build a new logistics park NE of Calgary at Conrich on their Calgary-Edmonton line (Three Hills Sub.). See http://www.trains.com/trn/default.aspx?c=a&id=6295  As far as ideas go, it is not a bad one. It is as flat as a tabletop around there and they should have all the space they need for unloading containers and turning semi's around.

CN has always been a victim of its' own corporate history around here. It inherited two small yards from its' predecessors and built Sarcee after the formation of the CNR. That was on the outside edge of the city then, and was the terminal of both the Hanna and Three Hills Subs. But it to was small and by the time of the intermodal age they had no space to expand the operation there. When it comes time for expansion at this new site, to paraphrase The Who song, they can see for miles. I hope it works out for them.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, February 8, 2010 6:25 PM
The TV news is forecasting 9-15" for this storm (and the warning has been extended to noon on Wednesday). One model shows most of Cook County (that's Chicago and Proviso) and eastern DuPage County (that's us!) getting 20 or more inches! And toward the end of the storm, the wind is supposed to turn northerly, i.e., down the Lake, giving the snow belt (Gary and environs) even more.

On our way home from the dentist today, we saw a halo around the sun, formed by ice crystals high in the atmosphere. Only a few more hours before they come down to earth.

Trains seen this afternoon included the westbound Bird, which flew through town too fast to help us at the traffic light, and an eastbound manifest that was more helpful, running interference for us at all of the crossings in Elmhurst. Those two, two scoots, a Wisconsin Electric coal train, and a high-green lineup for some sort of freight from the west summed up our day. We also did our payday shopping two days early, so we can contend with the weather tomorrow and other business (including work) on Wednesday.

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