RED MEANS STOP right?

[tree68]

Scanners are good things. Just watch the local laws.

[wcfan4ever]

Thats kinda like an Amtrak train I saw in Elm Grove, WI. It passed a RED doing 50! I check the signals and about 30 seconds later Amtrak came whizzing by on a RED. Didn't have scanner so don't know about how he went about it.

[csxengineer98]

adams....
thats the same thing here in the US... if you pass an abslulte signal that is displaying a STOP indication... without permision of the train dispatcher.... you are FIRED.....DO NOT PASS GO..DO NOT COLLECT 200 BUCKS...for at least 30 days.... on the rail roads here..... being fired is more or less a suspetntion for what ever time limet the disaplary investication desides it should be.... for your first offence on passing a stop without permison... its normaly 30 days off... but here on CSX...they have started a new policy a few years back....that if you should pass a stop signal without permistion..its 30 days off...and your next office..no matter when it happens in your rail road carrier...is PERMINET DISSMISSAL.....this also aplyes to running a red board at a 707... they lumped it into a cataigory of "occupying main track without permission"....under the critical life rules disiplane policy...
on csx....5 critical life rules are......
occupying main track without permision....( running a red signal..... running a red board at a 707 work order....running a DTC block in dark territory)
blue flags.....( running into a track that is blue flag protected)
for the signal man....failer to maintain crossing warning devices....
and for MOW workers..failer to be use fall protection....(being tied off with a rope to prevent hiting the ground when working above sertain feet)
i forget the last one...but ill look next time i report for duty..lol....
csx engineer

[JoeKoh]

thanks for the info guys. I need to get a scanner(put it on the list) just from observation a lot of trains were waiting to get through deshler.
stay safe
joe

[Anonymous]

Joe-

Did you have a scanner on?

The DS may very well have been talking that train by the stop signal for any one of a number of reasons.

LC

[Anonymous]

when I was a signalman on British Railways in the 1960's, a red signal meant STOP-
no ifs or buts, passing that signal without permission could mean suspension(if reported)but some manual sigalboxes(towers) had no electronic detectors and things in the backwoods(branch lines) were kept away from our admin

[csxengineer98]

red means stop..at an absolut signal... if a signal has a number plate...G , APP..or any other kind of plate on it..its an intermeadiat...which on CSX the train can pass it at rescricted speed to the next signal...now the only way you can legaly pass an absolut signal that is displaying a stop indictaion on csx...is by permistion of the train dispatcher.... the dispacther can give you a 234-A past the stop signal... which means....befor passing the signal...the train must stop....and then it can proseed at restriced speed to the next signal..or into the yard or what ever the situation might be..
also...keep in mind...left hand signal..left hand track...right hand signal right hand track.... and if a group of signals is on a cantileaver arm over the tracks... the left signal is for the left track...right is for the right track... and if thier is 3 tracks and only 2 signals...thier is a thing that would be to the left or right of the signals called a Doll arm....that tells the train crews what signals are for what track...
hope this helps

[JoeKoh]

Thanks for the info.Deshler was straight ahead for those guys and it wasnt an absolute it was a block signal.A guy by the name of Dan I met in fostoria said the dispatcher for deshler was pretty busy.I could see that as I crossed the north south tracks in town going to Fostoria.
stay safe
joe

[CSSHEGEWISCH]

If it's not an absolute signal, the train may pass at restricted speed. The signals on the left would be for the left track as you face the signals.

[Anonymous]

On the Reading, at least on the Commuter lines, a single red meant come to a complete stop, then proceed at restricted speed being ready to stop short of any obstruction. An absolute stop was a triple red.

[Anonymous]

Up here, Usually a double Signal Refers to a double Restrictive, indicating the next Signal will be a Tripple Absolute.

I can't rememeber the Rule number of fhand, but if it's a restrictive or a double restrictive signal, and it's indication is red, An ACTUAL STOP at the signal is not required, as long as the signal is passed at 15 MPH, and the engineer is prepared to stop short of any obstruction, break in the Rail, etc...

[Rick Gates]

Joekoh - Not familiar with the stretch you are refering to however; I might speculate it was a CTC or ABS signal system with rule 261 in effect. Or, they had a train order.

[JoeKoh]

On our way to fostoria we saw a lot of train action on CSX.the train went slowly into a block with double red signals on each side.I am hoping that the signal had a malfunction and they contacted the dispatcher.
stay safe [;)]
joe