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[quote user="vsmith"] <DIV>The simple unavoidable facts are ...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>FACT global atmospheric temperatures ARE rising</DIV> <DIV>FACT global ocean temperatures ARE rising</DIV> <DIV>FACT mountain glaciers worldwide ARE receding- fast</DIV> <DIV>FACT polar ice caps ARE receding</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>[/quote]</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>FACT - the earth is coming out of a Little Ice Age, so "duuuh!".  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Clarification - The Arctic Ice is diminishing, but the Antarctic Ice is increasing.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>[quote]</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Climates change, Yes. The the big difference between now and the last big climate warming is that we were not around...[/quote]</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>That is false.  The "last big climate warming" occured a mere 1000 or so years ago, at least 2-3 degrees warmer than what we are experiencing now, and all the evidence we have points to the fact that, yes indeed, there was human habitation going on!  In fact, that particular warming period resulted in subsequent growth of European standards of living - wealth, education, personal freedoms.  We have a name for this period in our history books - it's called "<STRONG>The Renaissance</STRONG>".</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>
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