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Train delays in Sacramento Ca. area
Posted by videomaker on Friday, March 16, 2007 7:51 PM
 
 Has anyony heard of any huge back ups in train traffic from the burned out bridge in Sacramento area? I heard that UP has several hundred trains backed up due to the incident.Dont know about BNSF...Can we get some news ? Danny
 
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Posted by CAZEPHYR on Saturday, March 17, 2007 8:41 PM
 videomaker wrote:
 
 
 Has anyony heard of any huge back ups in train traffic from the burned out bridge in Sacramento area? I heard that UP has several hundred trains backed up due to the incident.Dont know about BNSF...Can we get some news ? Danny
 

 The news is the tracks are gone from the American River south west for about twelve hundred feet.  Not even the new GE's can jump over that!!   The trestle was just east of the Elvis Y which is the Valley line coming onto the Overland double track route.  The trains are now using the old WP line at street level north and south thru Sacramento and turning east at Binney junction to get back on the Overland Route. Amtrak was doing this with a UP unit tied on the rear so the Amtrak unit could lead after Binney junction move from the north.    This is single track and the Y had been removed to go east onto the old SP tracks to Roseville from the south, but the other section of the Y leg was still in place for the south bound old WP line to go east to Roseville.  The 3985 used this leg last August when it came down the Old WP line from Portola and turned east on Binney junction to go to Roseville.

Today the UP crew has almost finished laying new panel track to complete the north bound to east track so trains can proceed onto the Overland route above the Trestle fire area.  It will be at least sixty days or more to replace the Trestle.

There are trains all over waiting to get past the single track reversed Y leg of Binney junction, but as soon as the other section of the Y is in and operational, some congestion should ease. 

 

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Posted by Dakguy201 on Sunday, March 18, 2007 9:37 AM

some time estimates for repair from the UP

 http://www.appeal-democrat.com/articles/2007/03/18/news/local_news/news2.txt 

 

I would think those estimates are for double shoofly tracks, not the permanent solution 

 

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Posted by Modelcar on Sunday, March 18, 2007 11:48 AM

...All the accounts that I have read on estimate of time and rebuilding directs to building 2 trestles to replace the burned structure.  Estimate of April 1st seems to be to have a track completed over the first completed {new}, trestle of stated steel and prestressed concrete.

2nd trestle and track about May 1st.

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Posted by beaulieu on Sunday, March 18, 2007 3:52 PM
 Modelcar wrote:

...All the accounts that I have read on estimate of time and rebuilding directs to building 2 trestles to replace the burned structure.  Estimate of April 1st seems to be to have a track completed over the first completed {new}, trestle of stated steel and prestressed concrete.

2nd trestle and track about May 1st.

This is part of the reason for two single track bridges. They have standard size spans, since there are no roads or navigable waterway, they will just drive steel piling and set the sections on top. Single track sections can come in by rail as a wide load, they are using material intended for a bridge elsewhere, this is how they will be able to get the first section up so fast. If they had to cross either a road or waterway they would have had to order custom spans, fortunately they do not. From the time estimates they probably have enough spans for one track, but not enough for two and will have to order some.

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Posted by twhite on Sunday, March 18, 2007 4:27 PM

Picture in today's sunday SACRAMENTO BEE of a UP truck with steel girders on the burned trestle site.  Evidently they're starting work from one end while putting out the burning debris at the other. 

Never seen UP work so FAST at anything out here in Northern California, LOL!

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Posted by jeaton on Sunday, March 18, 2007 6:06 PM

Here is the link to the Bee article:

http://www.sacbee.com/101/story/139848.html

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Posted by Modelcar on Sunday, March 18, 2007 7:12 PM

.....The Bee article....?  Not unless one is registered for the paper.

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Posted by SactoGuy188 on Sunday, March 18, 2007 7:53 PM
 twhite wrote:

Picture in today's sunday SACRAMENTO BEE of a UP truck with steel girders on the burned trestle site.  Evidently they're starting work from one end while putting out the burning debris at the other. 

However, UP can't start work until the debris and contaminated soil are removed. That could take a week or more. 

 

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Posted by Jetrock on Monday, March 19, 2007 4:45 PM
They're already driving piles for the new trestle.
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Posted by twhite on Monday, March 19, 2007 7:45 PM
 SactoGuy188 wrote:
 twhite wrote:

Picture in today's sunday SACRAMENTO BEE of a UP truck with steel girders on the burned trestle site.  Evidently they're starting work from one end while putting out the burning debris at the other. 

However, UP can't start work until the debris and contaminated soil are removed. That could take a week or more. 

 

 

Evidently they've already moved in, despite debris and contaminated soil.  Started driving piles.  As I said before, I'm amazed that UP is moving so fast on ANYTHING here in Northern California.  Due date is for one trestle to be operational in two weeks, despite Snail Darters and Spotted Owls or people in rowboats testing the water quality in the American River.  Environmentalists from the People's Republic of Davis are probably not going to be happy, but at least SOME of the trains will be up and running without having to take that 95 mile detour through Marysville.   Second trestle is due in and ready by May 1st.   

Oh, well---

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Posted by videomaker on Monday, March 19, 2007 9:56 PM

Thanks for all the replys guy !

I have a friend who is going to Sacramento before the end of April and he's thinking about getting there in the middle of the night and having to wake up his friend to come ang get him...

Danny

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