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Ed, <br />When I said it was common knowledge 50 years ago that filling every seat every trip would not pay for the cost of the car during it's lifetime, I was basing that on what I heard many times back then. I also heard two railroad presidents say the same thing. I have no other facts to go by. <br /> <br />Yes, I totally agree with you that Amtrak should be allowed to sink or swim on its own. I also agree that commuter subsidies must be paid by the local jurisdictions. I am not that familiar with commuter operations, but the population of every city I know anything about is moving farther and farther away from the center city. There appears to be a trend for corporations to do the same. Moving people within metropolitan areas is getting more and more complicated. One possible answer to traffic congestion may be for more places of employment to get away from the center city and go where the people are. Seems that I read or heard somewhere that a number of corporations are leaving Manhattan after 9/11.
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