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[quote user="edblysard"] So, then it is quite OK for Mike and Dave to insult folks, and if anyone has the nerve to reply in kind, then they are labled trouble makers....? But find any thread where Mike or Dave didnt throw out the first insult...you would be hard pressed to do so. I am sure there might be one or two, but compared to the sheer volume of their other posts, the amount would be so small as to be meaningless. Your allowed to "return the favor" but no one else is? Your flavor, or none at all? Funny, I respect your opinion on just about anything to do with a computer or robotics, after all, it is your field of employement. If you told me this works that way, I would accept it as a fact, knowing you have done the work or designed the program yourself. But to have a fabricated persona named Dave tell me how wrong I am in the field I have worked in for the past ten years, all the while having never touched a piece of the equipment himself is somewhat aggravating. Somewhat along the lines of me telling you that Windows is the only real operating system, even though you know better, and calling you a rude name when fail to agree completly with me. Between the two of them, they would argue to death with anyone the concept that the background color for the forum is not white, but a shade of grey. And somewhere in there, Mike would point out the correct word, according to some graph or book he has, is gray. Then they would argue the pixel counts, tonal shades, and somewhere along in there, slip in open access, BNSF is evil, and Mike's financial genius. For a guy who claims to have such a tremendous knowledge of the stock market and financial performance, he seems pretty broke to me. Point is, you at least have the nuts to say outright what you think...but Dave seems incapable of saying he is really pissed off the faimly farm went down the tubes because BN pulled out of town...instead, he goes about his vendetta under the pretense that he has real, functional knowledge of how and what railroads do...and then resorts to sideways insults if anyone calls him down on his silliness. If the sneak attack dosnt work, then he resorts to just plain rudeness and insults...and when it is given back, he plays the injured party and quits the fight...what a child, cant even face the music he started playing. Paper tigers, the pair of them. And on purpose, to boot, because you cant really win an arguement with a non-person. They hide behind pretense and bull...t, and like most trolls, are afraid to let anyone know who they are. If you knew the qualifications, and quality of some of the folks who seem to bear the brunt of Mike and Dave's distain, you might rethink your version of bright... So far, they both have told the former chief engineer and surveyor of the ATSF he was stupid, informed a stock broker he knew nothing about the stock market, although the man makes quite a good living at it, managed to get his kids through Harvard, and told the owner and president of a succesful short line he knew nothing about railroads...not to mention all the blue collar guys like me who do this every day being told we are dumb and useless...somehow that dosnt qualify either one of them as bright wicks in my book... If they seem that way to you...man I am sorry, but it must be awful dark at your house.[/quote]   This latest falsehood-laden tirade from EdBlysard is a joke, right?  Otherwise, we have a new champion for bottom scraping forum posts. If I may, a few points to ponder.... 1.  Working for a railroad does not make one an expert on transportation economics, on the contrary it probably makes one less adept at economic postulation than one who has the chance to step back and observe via contrast and comparison independent of work day influences.  And usually, to be considered an "expert" in an economic field, you first have to have the economics degree. 2.  Most of the grain in this area is either trucked down to the barge ports or shipped via UP.  BNSF has rendered itself impotent in the PNW grain trade for the most part. 3.  Ed, if you had any evidence of Mike or myself throwing out the first insult, you should've presented it.  You didn't, because such does not exist.  Which proves you are a liar. 4.  The only folks who have said that "BNSF is evil" is yourself and TomDiehl.  I have never said it.  Mike has never said it.  Again, you are a liar for making such an accusation. 5.  Yes, Dave is my real name.  You are a liar for stating that it is a "fabricated persona". 6.  The family farm is doing just fine, and it's success has nothing to do with BNSF's actions one way or the other.  Again, for most folks around here, BNSF is irrelevent by it's own actions. 7.  Speaking of paper tigers, you still haven't apologized for berating my statement regarding the hypothetical situation of a derailed car being pulled 20 miles along the track, even after I posted the recent news item regarding a BNSF coal train doing just that, albeit for 30 miles.  I guess you're still scraping the egg off your face on that one, huh Ed?
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