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[quote]QUOTE: <i>Originally posted by Hugh Jampton</i> <br /><br />[quote]QUOTE: <i>Originally posted by TheAntiGates</i> <br /><br /> <br />You ain't gonna get 80,000 people to board a train in one hour. let alone continue on to drive it past a single fixed point. <br />[/quote] <br /> <br />It seems to me that you are under the misaprehension that 80,000 people get on a train at point A and an hour later they are delivered to point Z. <br /> <br />[/quote] <br /> <br />Sorry if it looked as though I <b> believed </b> that. my intention was more to exploit the concept as a comparative improbability. <br /> <br />It's clear that any such train would HAVE to board at numerous locations, spanning well beyond the parameters of the one hour time frame. <br /> <br />My (intended) point was along the lines of '~okay, if we are going to allow these trains 3 hours to ticket and board, then stage them to speed past a single point so that we can claim rail has a capacity of 80,000 passengers per hour, then clearly we are making some optimal assumptions, to give the rail option such a huge advantage.~' <br />Okay, THAT was my point. <br /> <br />And I was just saying that if we factor in ticketing, change making, and boarding (all a part of the rail riding experience) then that optimized number goes way way down. <br /> <br />Alternately, lets figure in some unrealistic variables for the auto, and see how that modes listed capacity skyrockets. <br /> <br /> Instead of assuming each car has only one occupant, lets optimize for the sake of numbers derived, lets cram 4 passengers in each car (with the driver), throw 3 more in the trunk, then stage the cars bumper to bumper, then let them get a flying mile head start to race past a single point and see what kind of contrived, albeit impressive number we can compare with. <br /> <br /> <br />Even with the optimized conditions for the trains, 80,000 passengers/hr is a staggering figure. <br /> <br />Lets look at that,how many passengers per train/ how many trains? <br /> <br />Just pulling numbers out of the air, if each train holds a 1000 passengers, then we have 80 trains supposedly passing a single point, over a 60 minute period <br /> <br />What about a cushion in between each train for safety? how long must a train capable of holding 1000 passengers be? How long will all 80 trains combined be, and how fast will they have to travel to collectively pass by a single point within an hour? <br /> <br />Better hope UP isn't involved, they'll let each train sit waiting in a siding for well more than an hour. <br /> <br />he original claim just doesn't seem to hold any merit.
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