BNSF trackage rights routes

[MP173]

A few years ago there was a good article in Trains on BNSF and the concept that it is several railroads....coal railroad, grain railroad, merchandise railroad, and trackage rights railroad.

I do not have the article at hand, but based on memory and the current BNSF map, I see there are several primary trackage rights routes:

1.  The Overland Route from San Francisco to Denver (SP/WP/Rio Grande).

2.  Inside Gateway route from Wishram down to Keddie Jct. and then south (GN/WP)

3.  Cotton Belt/MoPac route from East St. Louis to Texas.

If I recall, the Inside Gateway sees some dedicated BNSF trains, the number of 6-8 trains per day comes to mind.

What about the Overland Route and the Cotton Belt route?

Does BNSF send dedicated trains over these routes or not?  If so, how many on average per day? Obviously existing Santa Fe routes exists on Chicago to San Francisco and also Chicago to Houston. It appears that UP handles a large percentage of the petrochemical biz out of Texas for the East and Uppper midwest/Canada.  I see UP run thru trains on the CN with tank cars and cov ered hoppers.  Not so many on the BNSF run thrus.

 If BNSF has not tapped into these markets, is there a reason?

Thanks,

ed

 

[MP173]

recycle

 

[Datafever]

Is "recycle" a variation of "bump"?

[YoHo1975]

You're forgetting the grandaddy of them all Tehachapi.

 

[MP173]

It is my version getting the post back in play.   Not sure of what a "bump" is.

Still looking for answers tho.

ed

[Murphy Siding]

     I thought that trackage rights fees were *negotiated* by the railroads involved.  If you wanted tho run the MP173 over the Murphy Siding railroad using trackage rights, I would think those fees could get quite high if it was in my prime territory?  I wonder if that plays into things, as far as UP & BNSF on those lines?

[Datafever]

It is my version getting the post back in play.   Not sure of what a "bump" is.

Still looking for answers tho.

ed

bump = Bring Up My Post

It's purpose is to do what you did.  I was just wondering if that was what you were trying to do, or if you had some other purpose for your message. 

[Datafever]

     I thought that trackage rights fees were *negotiated* by the railroads involved.  If you wanted tho run the MP173 over the Murphy Siding railroad using trackage rights, I would think those fees could get quite high if it was in my prime territory?  I wonder if that plays into things, as far as UP & BNSF on those lines?

The trackage rights fees between UP and BNSF are mostly set by the agreement that was worked out at the time that UP and SP merged.  The fees are adjusted yearly based on set factors.

(Or in the case of UP moving on BNSF lines, the agreements established at the time of the BN/SF merger apply). 

[MP173]

data:

thanks for the definition.  Yes, I bumped.  No, I really dont knwo the definitions of most technoterms, other than IMHO.  Is there a reference site for all of those terms?

ed

[Datafever]

data:

thanks for the definition.  Yes, I bumped.  No, I really dont knwo the definitions of most technoterms, other than IMHO.  Is there a reference site for all of those terms?

ed

My goodness, there are hundreds of sites that list such terms.  Try this one.