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July TRAINS takes on the captive shipper debate - Best Issue Ever?
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[quote]QUOTE: <i>Originally posted by TomDiehl</i> <br /><br />[quote]QUOTE: <i>Originally posted by futuremodal</i> <br /><br />[quote]QUOTE: <i>Originally posted by edblysard</i> <br />No, seriously, I have invited him several times..come sit and watch, or grab a pair of gloves and boots and I can put him to work lining switches and pulling pins... <br />So far, he has chickened out every time. <br />Go figure.[:D]Ed <br />[/quote] <br /> <br />Oh, now it's an open invitation, is it? And for what? To watch a sorryass operation manned by folks like Ed? On my own dime?! No offer of paying my appearance fee, no per diem? <br /> <br />And you call that "chickening out"?. I call it a waste of my valuable time and resources. <br /> <br />And I would have thought someone down there in oil country would have a better grasp on which petro products go by which mode to which consumer market a majority of the time. <br />[/quote] <br /> <br />So, ignoring Dave's insults on this post, we can easily conclude 1) he's not a railfan, and 2) he's allergic to doing anything resembling real work. You could wonder what his knowledge is of railroads would be based on, like anybody with a blank profile. <br /> <br />It also makes you wonder what his "star" appeal would be. "On my own dime?! No offer of paying my appearance fee, no per diem?" <br />[/quote] <br /> <br />So Tom, apparently turning down an *invitation* from Ed is considered an "insult" down there in banjo country, yet being accused of "chickening out" over the understandable disregard I have for the faux invitation is NOT an insult? <br /> <br />Whatever. Now I guess the reference to "banjo country" will be considered an insult by your type. <br /> <br />Oh no! Now referencing "your type" will be considered an insult! Oh no! <br /> <br />I'll say this, and if you guys want to pu***he "insult" angle, by all means go ahead, you all have lost whatever credibiltiy you might have had at this point. <br /> <br />Bert is <font color="red">ignorant</font id="red"> of the difference between the monopolistic tactics of the US railroad industry and the current operations of the oil & petrochemical industry. He claims there is no difference between the railroads' captive shipper rates and the oil industry's current fuel prices. What I pointed out to him was that there are no consumers that are captive to the oil industry, so to try to analogize the railroad industry with the oil industry is ridiculous. <br /> <br />Bert then proceeded to accuse anyone who disagreed with him of name calling and Google name searches to ostensibly scrape up some dirt on him. Well, fine. Bert, you are <font color="red">ignorant.</font id="red"> There, now I have given credibility to your otherwise asinine "name calling" acusation. My bad. <br /> <br />As for a Google search, really now, why would I care? <br /> <br />Now, Tom. Do you really want to go into the comparison of how petrochemicals get to the primary consumption markets, or are you fine with thinking that <i>all </i>petrochemicals <i>can</i> get to the end user by pipeline? Just let me know and we'll go from there. No name calling, no Google searches, just a discussion.
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