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BNSF train symbols?
Posted by nucat78 on Thursday, November 9, 2006 1:06 PM

Anybody have a pointer to BNSF symbols?  I have the general format, e.g. a leading "E" means empty coal train, a leading "C" means loaded, etc. 

 I'm actually starting to pay attention to my scanner instead of just using it as a detector.  Thanks.

 

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Posted by Rodney Beck on Thursday, November 9, 2006 6:19 PM

Coal

 

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Posted by CSXrules4eva on Thursday, November 9, 2006 8:58 PM
If memory serves me right I believe BNSF uses the Alpha-Numaric system  the same as Union Pacific. I personally don't know how to read all of their train symbols, I would like to know how this is done.

I do know how to read CSX's symbols though Smile [:)]


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Posted by youngengineer on Thursday, November 9, 2006 9:09 PM

BNSF train smbols use alpha and numeric symbols, first letter is the type of train, i.e. A=amtrak, B=baretable, etc, next three are origin city and next three destination city, next number is priority of train 1=normal 9=highest, next two are the day of the month, 01 first day of month, 13=thirteenth of the month, coal trains use the numbers for which section, 1st through whatever section that the power plant gets, than a final letter designating which section of the train A=first section and so on, and there are some other meanings to it also.

So a symbol for BNSF might be Z WSPALT9 09A This would be a Z train from willow springs, IL to Alliance Texas, 9 meaning high priority, 09 9th day of the month A first section.

I hope this helps, there are some other meanings with certain symbols but I dont have the definitions in front of me.

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Posted by JSGreen on Friday, November 10, 2006 8:56 AM
So, is the date the day the first crew was called,( or the day the train was first scheduled to travel?)  and follows the train all the way to completion, or does it change with the calander?
...I may have a one track mind, but at least it's not Narrow (gauge) Wink.....
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Posted by Rodney Beck on Friday, November 10, 2006 9:09 AM

The train symoble stays the untill the train reaches it's final terminal.

 

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Posted by nucat78 on Friday, November 10, 2006 10:48 AM
 nucat78 wrote:

Anybody have a pointer to BNSF symbols?  I have the general format, e.g. a leading "E" means empty coal train, a leading "C" means loaded, etc. 

 I'm actually starting to pay attention to my scanner instead of just using it as a detector.  Thanks.

I wasn't clear.  What I'm looking for is the symbols for stations / terminals.  For example, I believe "EOS" is Eola, Illinois.  Specifically, I'm trying to figure out what "SCM" is.  The train was

E EOS SCM which was Empty coal train, Eola to ???

Thanks.

 

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Posted by SFbrkmn on Friday, November 10, 2006 12:48 PM
The current symbol format was adopted in 1997.  It has to be the most silly of any rr. Then again we are talking about the old BN here. It was their idea.
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Posted by Lear35A on Friday, November 10, 2006 3:06 PM

SCM = Spring Creek Mine.

This is what you're looking for:

http://www.qstation.org/bnsf/bnsfcoal.html

http://www.qstation.org/bnsf/bnsfsymbols.html

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Posted by youngengineer on Friday, November 10, 2006 9:28 PM
Not trying to be nit-picking, but the two websites are not fully complete, there are some stations not listed on there such AMS Amarillo south yard, Texas, but most are there.
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Posted by Lear35A on Friday, November 10, 2006 10:59 PM

 youngengineer wrote:
Not trying to be nit-picking, but the two websites are not fully complete, there are some stations not listed on there such AMS Amarillo south yard, Texas, but most are there.

Yeah, but they're better than nothing!

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Posted by UPTRAIN on Saturday, November 11, 2006 12:20 AM

Alpha-numeric symbols are easier to figure out when you have 2 or 3 letters per town, as opposed to memorizing numbers and putting route end points with them.

Summary of Trains by Type:

 

Type Description Type Description
A  -  AMTRAK   N  -  Hrs Serv Relief Crew
B  -  Bare Table Flat   O  -  Officers Special
C  -  Loaded Unit Coal   P  -  Premium Intermodal
D  -  Lite Locomotives   Q  -  Guaranteed Intermodal
E  -  Empty Unit Coal   R  -  Road Switcher (Schd)
F  -  Foreign Road Train   S  -  Stack Train Intermodal
G  -  Loaded Unit Grain   T  -  Transfer Service
H  -  Hi-Priority Merchandise   U  -  Non Coal/Grain Unit
I  -  Deadhead Crew Move   V  -  Vehicle (Autos/Parts)
J  -  Hi-Wide Dimensional   W  -  Work/Maintenance
K  -  Helper Units   X  -  Empty Unit Grain
L  -  Local Switcher   Y  -  Yard Job (Reg Sched)
M  -  Merchandise (Regular)   Z  -  UPS - LTL Intermodal

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Posted by nucat78 on Saturday, November 11, 2006 6:41 AM
 Lear35A wrote:

SCM = Spring Creek Mine.

This is what you're looking for:

http://www.qstation.org/bnsf/bnsfcoal.html

http://www.qstation.org/bnsf/bnsfsymbols.html

Bingo!  Thank you, sir.

 

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Posted by nucat78 on Saturday, November 11, 2006 6:48 AM
 UPTRAIN wrote:

Alpha-numeric symbols are easier to figure out when you have 2 or 3 letters per town, as opposed to memorizing numbers and putting route end points with them.

Summary of Trains by Type:

 

Type Description Type Description
A  -  AMTRAK   N  -  Hrs Serv Relief Crew
B  -  Bare Table Flat   O  -  Officers Special
C  -  Loaded Unit Coal   P  -  Premium Intermodal
D  -  Lite Locomotives   Q  -  Guaranteed Intermodal
E  -  Empty Unit Coal   R  -  Road Switcher (Schd)
F  -  Foreign Road Train   S  -  Stack Train Intermodal
G  -  Loaded Unit Grain   T  -  Transfer Service
H  -  Hi-Priority Merchandise   U  -  Non Coal/Grain Unit
I  -  Deadhead Crew Move   V  -  Vehicle (Autos/Parts)
J  -  Hi-Wide Dimensional   W  -  Work/Maintenance
K  -  Helper Units   X  -  Empty Unit Grain
L  -  Local Switcher   Y  -  Yard Job (Reg Sched)
M  -  Merchandise (Regular)   Z  -  UPS - LTL Intermodal

Thanks, between this and the links from Lear, I've got everything I need now.

 

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