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[quote]QUOTE: <i>Originally posted by ValleyX</i> <br /><br />Well, Gates, <br /> <br /> <br /><b>A.</b>I don't understand the connection between that story and the topic at hand, that's an old story, the crew outlawed on the hours-of-service and secured the train, someone who had no knowledge of railroading took the story and ran with it. <br /> <br /><b>B</b>As for being promoted to engineer within twenty-four months, it's turned into more like five to eight years in many areas on the railroad that you did your hiring session with. They might be saying twenty-four months but that's not realistic. <br /> <br /><b>C</b>I read these posts and if I were an outsider, I would be convinced that all conductors sleep and are a hazard to themselves and others. Although it would not be honest for me to say that I've never seen a sleeping conductor, I will state that not all conductors sleep and that isn't the norm, nor is it acceptable. <br /> <br /><b>D</b>As for bathroom breaks, the train has to be stopped or a licensed engineer has to be in the seat, the conductor running is not permitted unless he holds an engineers' license. With the great increases in business most places, the likelihood of having a promoted engineer working as a conductor is slim. Yes, in moments of desperation, you might actually stop the train and tell the dispatchers that's it, can't make it another inch. <br />[/quote] <br /> <br /> <br />A. my intended reference was in reply to Ed's recount of the elaborate preparations required to tie down a locomotive. Obviously if the owning RR wants the crew to tie down, thay have no reservations to instruct the crew to do exactly that. <br /> <br />B. I don't think it was a "promise" they were offering. AS I recall, the guy said it would be the RR's option to require the conductor to test if THEY needed him to. Maybe I should have said it better, : It is mandatory that the Conductor must be willing to convert to engineer at the RR's request anytime after his initial 24 months, and if asked to do so, must be succesful, OR ELSE. Is that better? Ido recall the interviewer saying it could be longer, but it was completely up to the RR. <br /> <br />The reason why I even recall that is because during another part of the session he stated it would probably take a new conductor 5 years to work up enough seniority to bid the desireable jobs, then the turns around later and pretty much lays out a strategy where that seniority would never happen, making me wonder if they threw all their employees around like a sack of potatoes like that. <br /> <br />Spending years working ones way up the seniority list of conductor just to get ripped up and put at the bottom of the engineers list didn't look like a bargin to me, it looked like a rip. <br /> <br />C. I wouldn't think it was that wide spread, given that 'sleeping on the job' is a bad infraction at any company. But, when one reads the DOT accident reports where somebody misses a signal, or runs into something they shouldn't, the investigatiors who examine these accidents for a living seem to have an almost tongue in cheek non-chalance in their methodology, where they know that the employee's were sleeping, and that the employees are gonna deny it. Sure looks from the outside to be a 'problem everybody knows about, but no one will admit to' <br /> <br />D. And have to tie down like ED says is required? I'll bet the guy wets himself before he can set all those brakes. if his call to nature is all THAT urgent.
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