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Pigs and Stacks- Is there a traslator in the house?
Posted by Murphy Siding on Sunday, August 27, 2006 4:36 PM
     Forgive me, I live in an area where most all railcars are boxcars,gondolas, and hoppers.  On some threads there is talk of "pigs" and "stackers".  I thought I had it straight for a while, but apparantly not.  What are they, and how did they get those particular nicknames?

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 27, 2006 4:42 PM

Oh come on!  Pigs are the other white meat with curly tails, stackers are those acne faced geeks putting cans on the shelf of your local PigglyWiggly.

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Posted by Chris30 on Sunday, August 27, 2006 4:46 PM

"pigs" - trailer on a flat car... the trailer is riding piggyback.

"stacker" - one container stacked on one or two containers in a well car.

stack train - a train that is only hauling containers.

piggyback train - a train that is made up of trailers riding on flat cars,

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Sunday, August 27, 2006 9:23 PM
 Chris30 wrote:

"pigs" - trailer on a flat car... the trailer is riding piggyback.

"stacker" - one container stacked on one or two containers in a well car.

stack train - a train that is only hauling containers.

piggyback train - a train that is made up of trailers riding on flat cars,

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     Thanks Chris30.  I'm not sure why I never made the connection between "pigs" and "piggyback".

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 27, 2006 11:38 PM
what about a ham steak and a stack of pancakes?
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Posted by Mookie on Monday, August 28, 2006 6:46 AM

Futuremodal - a stacker is also something that is green and you put it on a hamburger!

Yum

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Posted by mudchicken on Monday, August 28, 2006 7:01 AM

Sea Cans = Container (just to stir the pot some more)

Chassis= What has rubber tires and carries sea cans around. When not in use, they wind up on end in special racks in the bigger intermodal yards

Bomber Chassis = What carries sea cans around during  transloading at the docks

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Posted by Hugh Jampton on Monday, August 28, 2006 7:12 AM
pigs: slang term for the police, usually derogitory

stacker: a type of diet pill
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Posted by Railfan1 on Monday, August 28, 2006 7:19 AM

Pigs (trailers on flat cars) have had other names as well. The L&N called them "totes", the Southern called them "TOFCs", and some call them "pig trains".

Stackers have also had other names such as "COFCs", "Intermodel trains", and "Stack trains".

 

Just a little more "FYI".

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Posted by chad thomas on Monday, August 28, 2006 10:17 AM
OK this might be a bit nit pickey but COFC stands for 'Container On Flat Car'. I would not consider a COFC train a stacker as they are usualy single level on 89' TTX flats or spine cars.
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Posted by CNW 6000 on Monday, August 28, 2006 10:22 AM

"Excuse me Sir, but seeing as the VP's a V.I.P. shouldn't we keep the VP's PC on the QT?  If the VP's PC leaks to the VC he could become MIA then we'd all get put out on KP."
-Robin Williams; Good Morning, Vietnam

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 28, 2006 10:25 AM
Never in my career have heard the term "stacker" except from railfans.  Stack train, double-stack, yes.  Stacker sounds like something pancake-like sold at IHOP.

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Posted by spbed on Monday, August 28, 2006 10:48 AM

Stacks are containers that can sit onto of each other with no wheels attached. Pigs are trailers that have wheels attached & sit on a flatcar with the wheels on. Road railers are the ones that ride on wheels on the wheels & are transferred to rubber wheels to go over the road

 

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     Forgive me, I live in an area where most all railcars are boxcars,gondolas, and hoppers.  On some threads there is talk of "pigs" and "stackers".  I thought I had it straight for a while, but apparantly not.  What are they, and how did they get those particular nicknames?

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 28, 2006 7:04 PM
 Mookie wrote:

Futuremodal - a stacker is also something that is green and you put it on a hamburger!

Yum

You mean like that diner scene in "Dumb & Dumber"?  If so, I'll pass!Dead [xx(]

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, August 28, 2006 8:04 PM

Mookie Stacker

Cinncinnati Pig:

Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by chad thomas on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 11:56 AM

Larry, how about a flying pig.

 

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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 12:01 PM

Thanx for the help, Tree!  You understood without any problem.....

Moo....

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Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 2:08 PM

Cheviot Hill & I forgive Tree68 on the mis-spelling of the old home town (Cin-cinn-ati, only the locals can spell it and fewer know of the Roman general or the society that spawned the name....Go Bengals, Who dey?)

Chad: Care to enter old Tin-shoes in the next Flying Pig Marathon?Smile [:)]...supposebly he and CopCar are raising havoc around Georgetown right now getting loopy....The guy is covering ground bigtime.

New Terms for here: "Straddlebuggies" & "PiggiePackers" (as in how do the sea cans and pigs get on and off the train.)

 

 

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Posted by chad thomas on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 2:19 PM
 mudchicken wrote:

 

Chad: Care to enter old Tin-shoes in the next Flying Pig Marathon?Smile [:)]...supposebly he and CopCar are raising havoc around Georgetown right now getting loopy....The guy is covering ground bigtime.

He sure is. I'm just glad that with all the traveling he is doing he took the time to drive the extra 140 miles (round trip from Thousand Oaks) up to Cajon on sunday. I enjoyed meeting him. I just wish he could have stayed more then a few hours. He should have some great shots to share when he gets home.

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Posted by SALfan on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 3:29 PM
 mudchicken wrote:

Cheviot Hill & I forgive Tree68 on the mis-spelling of the old home town (Cin-cinn-ati, only the locals can spell it and fewer know of the Roman general or the society that spawned the name....Go Bengals, Who dey?)

Cincinnatus was the Roman farmer who left his plow and became a general in time of war crisis.  After the war ended he went back to the plow.  Correct?

Speaking of the Bengals, the wife saw a bumper sticker the other day that read, "Bengal by birth, Packer by the grace of God".  (Ducking and running!)

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Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 4:55 PM
 JOdom wrote:
 mudchicken wrote:

Cheviot Hill & I forgive Tree68 on the mis-spelling of the old home town (Cin-cinn-ati, only the locals can spell it and fewer know of the Roman general or the society that spawned the name....Go Bengals, Who dey?)

Cincinnatus was the Roman farmer who left his plow and became a general in time of war crisis.  After the war ended he went back to the plow.  Correct?

Speaking of the Bengals, the wife saw a bumper sticker the other day that read, "Bengal by birth, Packer by the grace of God".  (Ducking and running!)

Add to that that George Washington was part of the post Revolutionary War Society named in Cincinnatus' honor for the country's citizen soldiers and that Losantiville became Cincinnati because of that and you're getting warm...

Whut? - The cheesepickers didn't get whomped-on bad enough last night?

 

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Posted by wctransfer on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 5:03 PM
Actually Murphy,

Pigs can be "intermodal" cars also. Like around here, stacks are called pigs. Its really just a matter of how picky you are. I call piggybacks piggybacks. I call stack trains, stacks,intermodal, or ofcourse "pigs".

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Posted by jeaton on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 7:19 PM
 mudchicken wrote:
 JOdom wrote:
 mudchicken wrote:

Cheviot Hill & I forgive Tree68 on the mis-spelling of the old home town (Cin-cinn-ati, only the locals can spell it and fewer know of the Roman general or the society that spawned the name....Go Bengals, Who dey?)

Cincinnatus was the Roman farmer who left his plow and became a general in time of war crisis.  After the war ended he went back to the plow.  Correct?

Speaking of the Bengals, the wife saw a bumper sticker the other day that read, "Bengal by birth, Packer by the grace of God".  (Ducking and running!)

Add to that that George Washington was part of the post Revolutionary War Society named in Cincinnatus' honor for the country's citizen soldiers and that Losantiville became Cincinnati because of that and you're getting warm...

Whut? - The cheesepickers didn't get whomped-on bad enough last night?

 

For his faux pas, Larry is sentenced to spend 3 months east of the Hudson River where people think that stories about a land beyond Buffalo are pure mythology, except, of course, Hollywood.

And the Packer fan might have a serious crises of faith this fall.

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