Trains Newswire for Trains subscribers only.

[Anonymous]

Why don't non-Trains subscribers get it anymore? There are seveal articles of great intrest to me, but, since I don't subscribe to Trains, I can't read them.

Such as,

Details finalized for fall excursions behind Chinese steam
 must be those 2-10-2s on the Iowa Interstate.

Iowa ethanol trading and distribution center will boost short line

The first of its kind in the US, which will be served by the Iowa Northern Railway. I gathered info on the ethanol center from the IANR yahoo group.

[Anonymous]

Your just now noticing? Everyone, except the Trains subscribers, has been in an uproar about this.


Matt

[nanaimo73]

Why don't non-Trains subscribers get it anymore? There are seveal articles of great intrest to me, but, since I don't subscribe to Trains, I can't read them.

Such as,

Details finalized for fall excursions behind Chinese steam
 must be those 2-10-2s on the Iowa Interstate.

Iowa ethanol trading and distribution center will boost short line

The first of its kind in the US, which will be served by the Iowa Northern Railway. I gathered info on the ethanol center from the IANR yahoo group.

Perhaps you have them in your email.

[bobwilcox]

Try this link https://secure.kalmbach.com/AdvantageWeb/eCirc/Offer.aspx?PromotionCode=IL67T

[samfp1943]

Your just now noticing? Everyone, except the Trains subscribers, has been in an uproar about this.


Matt

Matt's Right!       Beam me outta' here, Scotty

[SchemerBob]

Well if you ever do decide to subscribe to Trains, the log-in to the newswire is very easy. You just type in the 12-digit serial number above your name on the magazine address label, and you're in!

[adrianspeeder]

Yeah I'm gonna miss readin it.

Adrianspeeder

[Anonymous]

Your just now noticing? Everyone, except the Trains subscribers, has been in an uproar about this.

I just received my first newswire email (since we got the new forum) last night. Just curious, do these articles appear in Trains?

[cbqer]

I do subscribe to MR and I am getting the CD set on modeling sold by Kalmbach, and I do GO TO MY LOCAL SHOP TO GET TRAINS. Bucause I buy my copies rather than subscribe I am penalized. Go figure.

 

Kalmbach, shame on you.

 

Dick Donaway

[CopCarSS]

Why would you subscribe to MR, and buy Trains at the hobby shop?

I still don't understand those who are complaining about this. It's their website. They're still letting you use most of it for free. I think it's presuming upon their good will to complain about one detail on the free portion of that site.

I don't subscribe to MR. I will occasionally buy an issue if a cover catches my eye, but at the moment, that's maybe 1 or 2 times a year. As such, I don't have access to the online reviews. That's the price I pay for non-subscription. I'm not prepared to complain incessantly about it.

You shouldn't worry about the lack of access to the Newswire. All the big news items make it into Trains anyways, so since you buy it every month at the hobby shop you'll still read about it. Of course if you're just saying that to support your argument, I guess you're out of luck.

[chad thomas]

Well I do appriciate the forums, and I am not complaining about haveing to pay for access to certain parts of the site. What makes me mad is the discrimination of non subscribers. I have subscribed for many years but that was when there was no local hobby shop where I lived. The reason I buy over the counter rather then subscribe is because I like to support my local hobby shop. I don't mind paying extra for the counter price as I know it helps the LHS. Now to get access to the newswire I have to subscribe and if that were the case the LHS would loose out on my bussiness. I don't buy a lot of rolling stock these days so books and mags are most of the bussiness I give them. I don't think that's right. I think I should be able to support my local hobby shop and have the same access as subscribers. There has to be easy ways to prove you are an over the counter reader and still have access to the newswire. Oh well, there are other sources of news on the net. I've decided not to subscribe.

[Anonymous]

Well I do appriciate the forums, and I am not complaining about haveing to pay for access to certain parts of the site. What makes me mad is the discrimination of non subscribers. I have subscribed for many years but that was when there was no local hobby shop where I lived. The reason I buy over the counter rather then subscribe is because I like to support my local hobby shop. I don't mind paying extra for the counter price as I know it helps the LHS. Now to get access to the newswire I have to subscribe and if that were the case the LHS would loose out on my bussiness. I don't buy a lot of rolling stock these days so books and mags are most of the bussiness I give them. I don't think that's right. I think I should be able to support my local hobby shop and have the same access as subscribers. There has to be easy ways to prove you are an over the counter reader and still have access to the newswire. Oh well, there are other sources of news on the net. I've decided not to subscribe.

You could subscribe, and take the money saved versus the cover price (what is it? a whole buck?) and donate it to your favorite hobbyshop.

[chad thomas]

Well I do appriciate the forums, and I am not complaining about haveing to pay for access to certain parts of the site. What makes me mad is the discrimination of non subscribers. I have subscribed for many years but that was when there was no local hobby shop where I lived. The reason I buy over the counter rather then subscribe is because I like to support my local hobby shop. I don't mind paying extra for the counter price as I know it helps the LHS. Now to get access to the newswire I have to subscribe and if that were the case the LHS would loose out on my bussiness. I don't buy a lot of rolling stock these days so books and mags are most of the bussiness I give them. I don't think that's right. I think I should be able to support my local hobby shop and have the same access as subscribers. There has to be easy ways to prove you are an over the counter reader and still have access to the newswire. Oh well, there are other sources of news on the net. I've decided not to subscribe.

You could subscribe, and take the money saved versus the cover price (what is it? a whole buck?) and donate it to your favorite hobbyshop.

I've just decided thet the newswire is not all that important.

[Bergie]

I do subscribe to MR and I am getting the CD set on modeling sold by Kalmbach, and I do GO TO MY LOCAL SHOP TO GET TRAINS. Bucause I buy my copies rather than subscribe I am penalized. Go figure.

Kalmbach, shame on you.

Dick Donaway

Shame on us? Try to keep in mind that the News Wire that you were using FOR FREE for the past several years costs us tens of thousands of dollars to produce, edit, and maintain.

After several years of offering the News Wire for free, we have decided to make this a bonus for Trains magazine subscribers only, recognizing their commitment to the magazine, and our commitment to them.

Erik

[csxns]

Erik if this is a Trains bonus to subscribers why cant i get the news wire.I am a subscriber.

[CopCarSS]

Erik if this is a Trains bonus to subscribers why cant i get the news wire.I am a subscriber.

Did you link your Trains.com account to your subscription when you signed up for the new site?

[csxns]

Yes i did everything cust service had me to do.

[Poppa_Zit]

I do subscribe to MR and I am getting the CD set on modeling sold by Kalmbach, and I do GO TO MY LOCAL SHOP TO GET TRAINS. Bucause I buy my copies rather than subscribe I am penalized. Go figure.

 

Kalmbach, shame on you.

 

Dick Donaway

Nooo, Dick. SHAME ON YOU!

You're NOT being penalized. Too many here tend to forget what ol' Doc Milt Friedman meant when he said "There is no such thing as a free lunch." Bergie understands because he knows firsthand the economies of operating a publishing house.

On second thought, though, maybe you're right. Shame on Kalmbach -- for making the mistake of trying to do something nice for people all these years -- by providing the excellent Trains NewsWire for free for so long, and thereby making itself vulnerable to taking pipe from unappreciative, disgruntled people who have the gall to use a Kalmbach-supported, free forum to bite the hand that feeds them.

I look at it this way -- Those who make a long-term commitment by purchasing a subscription are getting a bonus here.

And to all who are threatening to leave the forum because of this, Ta-Ta!

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[BaltACD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><table class="quoteOuterTable"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/trccs/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif">&nbsp;<strong>Bergie wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"><BLOCKQUOTE><table class="quoteOuterTable"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/trccs/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif">&nbsp;<strong>cbqer wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4">
<P>I do subscribe to MR and I am getting the CD set on modeling sold by Kalmbach, and I do GO TO MY LOCAL SHOP TO GET TRAINS. Bucause I buy my copies rather than subscribe I am penalized. Go figure.</P>
<P>Kalmbach, shame on you.</P>
<P>Dick Donaway</P>
<P></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE></P>
<P>Shame on us? Try to keep in mind that the News Wire that you were using FOR FREE for the past several years costs us tens of thousands of dollars to produce, edit, and maintain. </P>
<P>After several years of offering the News Wire for free, we have decided to make this a bonus for <EM>Trains</EM> magazine subscribers only, recognizing their commitment to the magazine, and our commitment to them.</P>
<P>Erik</P></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

So what you are saying is that there is nominaly one full time employee devoted to the NewsWire.


As can be seen the Quote Function is not working for me....IE7 beta

[sanvtoman]

I guess it is a pain to have to subscribe to Trains to get access to some things.But  i have been a subscriber to Trains for over 30 years and back then we didnt have anything like this.So for me this is more bang for my buck

[DrummingTrainfan]

I think that it would be nice if Kamblauch could figure out a way to maybe give monthly access to the "special" content using a code on the magazine. However, if they don't (and they aren't) I'm not going to take Amtrak to Millwalkee and start a riot in front of their headquarters (gosh I hope I didn't just give someone an idea...)

[SchemerBob]

Is this really such a big deal? I know I know, I do subscribe to Trains and can get into the newswire, but for people who can't, is it that bad? If you want the newswire, subscribe! If you want it but don't want to subscribe, too bad!

[erikem]

I think that it would be nice if Kalmbach could figure out a way to maybe give monthly access to the "special" content using a code on the magazine. However, if they don't (and they aren't) I'm not going to take Amtrak to Millwalkee and start a riot in front of their headquarters (gosh I hope I didn't just give someone an idea...)

Erik,

I proposed this idea a few weeks ago (I am a subscriber, BTW).

There are a couple of sticking points. One is how to prevent someone from taking the code out of the magazine without buying it? The flip side is how to make sure that the person who bought the magazine gets the right to the code.

While newstand sales aren't as golden as subscriptions, my guess is that most subsribers started buying copies at the newstand before making the decision to get a subscription. The more people who buy Trains from a newstand, the more likely the newstand will continue carrying Trains.

- yet another Erik