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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 16, 2006 10:25 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

The topic of this thread is mud, not Latin...
If you can't sling mud, move on to the language thread....




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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 16, 2006 10:30 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by cornmaze

Next time you follow a "debate" on this forum, notice how many times you see the following logical fallacies committed.

Argumentum ad hominem (argument directed at the person). This is the error of attacking the character or motives of a person who has stated an idea, rather than the idea itself.

Red herring. This means exactly what you think it means: introducing irrelevant facts or arguments to distract from the question at hand.

Straw man. This is the fallacy of refuting a caricatured or extreme version of somebody's argument, rather than the actual argument they've made. Often this fallacy involves putting words into somebody's mouth.

*** hoc ergo propter hoc (with this, therefore because of this). This is the familiar fallacy of mistaking correlation for causation -- i.e., thinking that because two things occur simultaneously, one must be a cause of the other.

Argumentum ad nauseam (argument to the point of disgust; i.e., by repitition). This is the fallacy of trying to prove something by saying it again and again. But no matter how many times you repeat something, it will not become any more or less true than it was in the first place.

Argumentum ad numerum (argument or appeal to numbers). This fallacy is the attempt to prove something by showing how many people think that it's true. But no matter how many people believe something, that doesn't necessarily make it true or right.

Argumentum ad populum (argument or appeal to the public). This is the fallacy of trying to prove something by showing that the public agrees with you.

Dicto simpliciter (spoken simply, i.e., sweeping generalization). This is the fallacy of making a sweeping statement and expecting it to be true of every specific case -- in other words, stereotyping.

Tu quoque ("you too"). This is the fallacy of defending an error in one's reasoning by pointing out that one's opponent has made the same error.

Argumentum ad ignorantiam (argument to ignorance). This is the fallacy of assuming something is true simply because it hasn't been proven false.

Argumentum ad logicam (argument to logic). This is the fallacy of assuming that something is false simply because a proof or argument that someone has offered for it is invalid.

source:
http://www.csun.edu/~dgw61315/fallacies.html#Straw%20man




Latin 101??????
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Posted by ValorStorm on Friday, June 16, 2006 11:59 PM
Your esoteric inculcations are intemperately enigmatic comparative to my infinitesimal cognition... DARN IT!
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Posted by samfp1943 on Saturday, June 17, 2006 2:01 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jeaton

Apparently none of you guys have ever crawled on your belly through Georgia mud. (That's clay that gets wet and permanently dyes the color skin a dark orange.)

Fort Gordon 1963-64


After a couple of trips to the Atlanta Zoo, my grand daughter is still convinced that elephants are orange [thanks to the Georgia clay]. She could not convince her school teacher[ in Hawaii] that elephants are orange, and she had the photos to prove it.

Sam

 

 


 

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Posted by zardoz on Saturday, June 17, 2006 8:21 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ValorStorm

Your esoteric inculcations are intemperately enigmatic comparative to my infinitesimal cognition... DARN IT!

The purpose of this paragraph is to show you how easy it is to make a self-referential story such as this one. The purpose of this sentence is to inform you that each sentence of this paragraph contains a word signifying the number of the sentence within the paragraph (such as first, second, third, four, five, six, or last). This is the third sentence of this paragraph. This, the fourth sentence, is not very interesting. The purpose of the fifth sentence is to prepare you for the sixth sentence. The seventh sentence contains six different numbers (assuming that "first") is considered a number. The second sentence reads "The purpose of this sentence is to inform you that each sentence of this paragraph contains a word signifying the number of the sentence within the paragraph (such as first, second, third, four, five, six, or last)". The purpose of the eighth sentence (this one) is to inform you that the last sentence contains no numbers greater than six. The last sentence is identical to the sixth sentence but not the ninth. This tenth sentence precedes the last sentence. The second sentence reads "The purpose of this sentence is to inform you that each sentence of this paragraph contains a word signifying the number of the sentence within the paragraph (such as first, second, third, four, five, six, or last)".

This is the first sentence of the final paragraph. This sentence is referred to by four sentences. This sentence follows the second sentence. This sentences precedes the fourth sentence. The purpose of this sentence is to inform you that that the purpose of the following sentence is to inform you how long this sentence is. This sentence informs you that the previous sentence is longer than any other sentence in this paragraph. The purpose of this sentence is to refer you to the second sentence. This sentence is not the last sentence of the last paragraph. This sentence is.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 17, 2006 10:38 AM
And while we are on the subject, lets take a moment to reflect upon the personality types making these arguments, the roster of internet "flame warriors".

http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/ how many do YOU see here among us? [}:)]
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Posted by Murphy Siding on Saturday, June 17, 2006 1:06 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by TheAntiGates

And while we are on the subject, lets take a moment to reflect upon the personality types making these arguments, the roster of internet "flame warriors".

http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/ how many do YOU see here among us? [}:)]

It's been a while since I read those descriptions. I can definately see most of those personalities on here.[;)] Oddly enough, when I found myself, I wasn't half bad.[:0]

Thanks to Chris / CopCarSS for my avatar.

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Posted by edblysard on Saturday, June 17, 2006 2:23 PM
Big Z,
I couldnt find the word monopoly, rate, revenue, or captive in your entire post....oh, wait, I forgot, oligopoly (I think) and immoral...Dude, whats up with that?
[8D]
Ed
QUOTE: Originally posted by zardoz

QUOTE: Originally posted by ValorStorm

Your esoteric inculcations are intemperately enigmatic comparative to my infinitesimal cognition... DARN IT!

The purpose of this paragraph is to show you how easy it is to make a self-referential story such as this one. The purpose of this sentence is to inform you that each sentence of this paragraph contains a word signifying the number of the sentence within the paragraph (such as first, second, third, four, five, six, or last). This is the third sentence of this paragraph. This, the fourth sentence, is not very interesting. The purpose of the fifth sentence is to prepare you for the sixth sentence. The seventh sentence contains six different numbers (assuming that "first") is considered a number. The second sentence reads "The purpose of this sentence is to inform you that each sentence of this paragraph contains a word signifying the number of the sentence within the paragraph (such as first, second, third, four, five, six, or last)". The purpose of the eighth sentence (this one) is to inform you that the last sentence contains no numbers greater than six. The last sentence is identical to the sixth sentence but not the ninth. This tenth sentence precedes the last sentence. The second sentence reads "The purpose of this sentence is to inform you that each sentence of this paragraph contains a word signifying the number of the sentence within the paragraph (such as first, second, third, four, five, six, or last)".

This is the first sentence of the final paragraph. This sentence is referred to by four sentences. This sentence follows the second sentence. This sentences precedes the fourth sentence. The purpose of this sentence is to inform you that that the purpose of the following sentence is to inform you how long this sentence is. This sentence informs you that the previous sentence is longer than any other sentence in this paragraph. The purpose of this sentence is to refer you to the second sentence. This sentence is not the last sentence of the last paragraph. This sentence is.

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