Trains.com

What countries still use steam locomotives?

28542 views
20 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    August 2005
  • From: Milwaukee, WI
  • 35 posts
What countries still use steam locomotives?
Posted by coldguy on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 9:39 PM
I was watching "The Peacemaker" on cable this weekend. Its a '97 movie starring George Clooney, Nicole Kidman, and some slavic guy. Seems this Croat or Serb or Muslim (he claims all three) wants to blow up the UN with a stolen nuke. Anyone remember it? Anyway, the nukes are being hauled through the Urals in south-western Russia by a steam locomotive before they are stolen by a group of mercs on an overtaking diesel-powered train (the kind I saw while serving in the Balkans/SFOR!/)

To my point: How many countries still use steam locomotives for other than tourist/museum trains. I'm sure there are some using steam for revenue passenger service, but freight? Thanks much for your indulgence.
  • Member since
    April 2003
  • 305,205 posts
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 10:17 PM
Cuban sugar companies are still using steam.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=144408
  • Member since
    May 2004
  • From: Redding, California
  • 1,428 posts
Posted by Train 284 on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 10:58 PM
China did, until very recently. I think they still use it on narrow gauge lines though.
Matt Cool Espee Forever! Modeling the Modoc Northern Railroad in HO scale Brakeman/Conductor/Fireman on the Yreka Western Railroad Member of Rouge Valley Model RR Club
  • Member since
    June 2002
  • From: Independence, MO
  • 1,570 posts
Posted by UPTRAIN on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 1:15 AM
UP has used the 844 and 3985 in revenue freight service, but that was isolated, and was in a power crunch, lol.

Pump

  • Member since
    April 2003
  • 305,205 posts
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 1:19 AM
Indonesia still uses steam on plantation lines
  • Member since
    July 2005
  • From: Bath, England, UK
  • 712 posts
Posted by Tulyar15 on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 1:58 AM
There are still a few colliery lines in Serbia that use steam and there probably are in Poland too. As far as I know , Poland is the only country still with regular steam operation though I think there is an element of subsisiding it as a tourist operation.

I believe Zimbabwe is also still using steam, owing to the fact that it has plenty of coal but no oil and cannot afford any oil with the parlous state of its economy.
  • Member since
    August 2003
  • 6,434 posts
Posted by FJ and G on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:50 AM
Sub-Saharan Africa uses them. Hmmm. Is that a country?
  • Member since
    March 2016
  • From: Burbank IL (near Clearing)
  • 13,540 posts
Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 10:15 AM
Having looked at my 2000 issue of "Jane's World Railways" (highly recommended as a resource), China is the last major operator of steam locomotives. Everything else seems to be small pockets here and there with only a handful of steam locomotives on otherwise all diesel rosters.
The daily commute is part of everyday life but I get two rides a day out of it. Paul
  • Member since
    May 2004
  • 4,115 posts
Posted by tatans on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 12:08 PM
INDIA
  • Member since
    August 2005
  • From: Milwaukee, WI
  • 35 posts
Posted by coldguy on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 7:30 PM
Thanks for the replies. I would have guessed India and China, and they're probably going to change that soon since their economies are booming now. anyone have any more?
  • Member since
    December 2001
  • From: K.C.,MO.
  • 1,063 posts
Posted by rrandb on Thursday, June 1, 2006 6:23 PM
While China has quit building steam it will still be many years before they can replace them all even on main line trains. ENJOY
  • Member since
    May 2003
  • From: US
  • 25,292 posts
Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, June 1, 2006 7:38 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by rrandb

While China has quit building steam it will still be many years before they can replace them all even on main line trains. ENJOY


I believe China banked the fires on the last of their Main Line Steam earlier this year and their steam was the last 'revenue' steam that was still in operation in the world.

Never too old to have a happy childhood!

              

  • Member since
    December 2001
  • From: K.C.,MO.
  • 1,063 posts
Posted by rrandb on Thursday, June 1, 2006 8:54 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by BaltACD

QUOTE: Originally posted by rrandb

While China has quit building steam it will still be many years before they can replace them all even on main line trains. ENJOY


I believe China banked the fires on the last of their Main Line Steam earlier this year and their steam was the last 'revenue' steam that was still in operation in the world.
Depends on what you mean by Main Line. It continues to haul freight, serve branch lines and will work for factories for years. There are photos posted from China in the last month that show working steam that is not narrow guage. Either that or I have got some bad info and will gladly stand corrected. This would place them years ahead of their own estimates to build enough diesel engines.[2c] As always ENJOY
  • Member since
    August 2003
  • From: France
  • 240 posts
Posted by ddechamp71 on Friday, June 2, 2006 9:14 AM
Erythrea, Africa, and, I believe, Guatemala.

Dominique
  • Member since
    June 2012
  • 284 posts
Posted by Fr.Al on Friday, October 23, 2020 1:08 PM

It seems to be my lot to revive old threads. Besides Poland, I think some South American countries. But by now, they might be gone. I recorded a program about steam in Cuba(and an interurban!) from the RFD channel. But that video could be dated.

  • Member since
    June 2003
  • From: South Central,Ks
  • 7,170 posts
Posted by samfp1943 on Friday, October 23, 2020 1:46 PM

OK, Fr, Al.  Seems like this up-coming holiday season is an appropriate time of the year to be 'Reviving the long gone, but not yet deceased?" Devil

Here's one to start you off with [in fact, a compilation of 50 steamers from 2010 to 2020! ]    @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bikUN4UbnL0

And "The Race across the Southwest" , staring UPRR's 4014 ! Bow    Whistling

@ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT6B3a9eZzM

 

 


 

  • Member since
    May 2019
  • 1,768 posts
Posted by MMLDelete on Friday, October 23, 2020 1:54 PM

I think China still has mainline steam, but only on one line. I think that line is far north, and IIRC is actually a relatively newly-built line.

  • Member since
    May 2003
  • From: US
  • 25,292 posts
Posted by BaltACD on Friday, October 23, 2020 2:02 PM

Lithonia Operator
I think China still has mainline steam, but only on one line. I think that line is far north, and IIRC is actually a relatively newly-built line.

My understanding is that China has no Main Line steam still operating.  The last line stopped using steam 4 or 5 years ago.  There is a poster on https://www.railpictures.net/ that has posted numerous picturs of that operation.  As I recall the dates on most of his pictures are 2016 or 2017 and he has commented that steam is no longer in use.

Never too old to have a happy childhood!

              

  • Member since
    February 2019
  • From: Sacramento, California
  • 98 posts
Posted by L. Zhou on Friday, October 23, 2020 2:09 PM

In China, steam is gone on all of China Railway system by around the end of the early 2000s or so, but managed to stick around on small provincial lines for much longer, who bought the locomotives from the government. Steam on those lines lasted up until around 2013. 

The QJs which rumbled over the JiTong line back when it was first built are now long gone. 

The last line in China that uses steam now is a quarry in Xiangjing Province called Sandaoling, however I heard the line is going to close soon.  

"No one realizes how beautiful it is to travel until he comes home and rests his head on his old, familiar pillow." -Lin Yutang

-

  • Member since
    December 2008
  • From: Toronto, Canada
  • 2,560 posts
Posted by 54light15 on Friday, October 23, 2020 2:17 PM

There are several narrow-gauge railways in Eastern Germany that use steam on metre-gauge lines. This is the biggest one and it does haul freight on occasion;

https://www.hsb-wr.de/ 

  • Member since
    June 2003
  • From: South Central,Ks
  • 7,170 posts
Posted by samfp1943 on Friday, October 23, 2020 5:00 PM

[quote user="L. Zhou"]

In China, steam is gone on all of China Railway system by around the end of the early 2000s or so, but managed to stick around on small provincial lines for much longer, who bought the locomotives from the government. Steam on those lines lasted up until around 2013. 

The QJs which rumbled over the JiTong line back when it was first built are now long gone. 

The last line in China that uses steam now is a quarry in Xiangjing Province called Sandaoling, however I heard the line is going to close soon.  

[/quote]

  Mr.Zhou.... The QJ class may be gone in China; BUT in Iowa there are a couple still working! 

And from an earlier time: Qj's #6988 and #7081 Double heading on IIRR:

@https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzfjMuKIaKc

Here is the #6988  (at speed) in Iowa in 2018:

@ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUGv2L3dFl8

And here is the now retired QJ #7040  -'Old Smokey'- from RJ Corman's Dinner Train.

@https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laiS1XIPFfk

In about 2007 R.J. Corman bought Qj class #7040, and had it overhauled in China before being shipped to US.

see film @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0au4x8amSnQ

#7040 was taken out of service about the time that RJ Corman got sick, and passed. and  is on display at Midway,Ky.

** Smile, Wink & GrinHere is a You Tube  video from September 2011 taken @ Jixi, China of the final steam run: @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQL09QFB4bM

 

 


 

Join our Community!

Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account.

Search the Community

Newsletter Sign-Up

By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy