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Quoth Daniel: "Dear OldTimer, You do of course realize that you're attacking two of the most respected authors on steam technology, Bruce and Johnson, right?" Daniel, I'm not attacking anybody; I'm just telling you what's in their very famous steam locomotive books. Same with Swengel. The others, by inference, implied the N&W power was not in a class with others. Look it up, guys. The printed words are out there. Read Le Massena's early works; read Huddleston. Timzie - Gross Ton Miles is tons times miles; train hours is train hours. Length of run is immaterial. Can you honestly not see this, or do you just want to assume the role of troll-in-residence on this thread? Old Timer
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