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OK, Timzie, here we go: 1 - "Old Timer prefers not to identify the "steam locomotive intelligentsia". Anybody else got any theories who said any of that?" I'll take care of it, Timzie, since you insist: Let's start with Ralph Johnson of Baldwin. In his "Steam Locomotive" there's no mention of the N&W, either in his text or in any of the tables of what he considers to be notable locomotives made by other companies; the N&W might as will not have existed. A. W. Bruce, In "The Steam Locomotive in America" gives the N&W polite lip service when he considers wheel arrangements of 4-8-4, 2-6-6-4, and 2-8-8-2, but polite lip service is all it is. Frank Swengel, in "The Evolution of the North American Steam Locomotive" considers N&W's Y-1 2-8-8-2 in his 1910-1915 chapter, and elsewhere notes in text of 4-8-4s "the information available shows the N&W J class with the highest tractive effort at 80,000 pounds. Not a ringing endorsement. Robert A. Le Massena, in his writings prior to about 1985, gave lip service to N&W, but was seduced by the maximum locomotives - the Allegheny, Big Boy, and what he considered to be the finest 4-8-4, the NYC 6000. After 1985, he saw the light. Others giving the N&W short shrift who consider themselves to be part of the steam intelligentsia include the names Huddleston, Zukas, Pennypacker . . . Now will you drop it? Old Timer
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