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Big Boy and zardoz - all that can be said of your posts here is that you both are beyond hope. You continue to ignore facts, prefering instead to replace fact with obfuscation. As if Wal-Mart represents the average US wage! Perhaps in your little world that is a *fact*, but it is so far out of the mainsteam of reality that one has to wonder what you both are really smoking. The Bush Administration does not, indeed cannot "subsidize" any industry, what so-called "Big Oil" is getting is by the directive of Congress, with the purpose of aiding in new exploration, drilling, refining, and distributing fuel to the economy. If anything, these aid programs are nothing more than mitigation for all the artificial cost increases foisted upon our industrial sector by you environmental extremists. Oh, and will you admit that your precious environmental movement IS directly subsidized by statute? Every time an environmental group files one of their myriad of frivolous lawsuits (usually to stop some form of economic development, to the detriment of US producers and to the benefit of foriegn producers), the taxpayers are FORCED to pay the legal fees of the eco-attorneys. Nice little scam you all got going there. AND FOR WHAT? Not one single environmental lawsuit has ever resulted in an improved environment. Usually what happens is that the US producer loses the business to a foreign producers, where environmental standards (de facto and de jure)are much lower, worker/capital productivity are much less, and the result is much more pollution et al per unit of production than could have ever happened if that production was taking place in the USA. Yeah, you all are really saving the planet. (insert sarcastic smilie here) BTW, the energy bill doesn't just aid so-called "Big Oil" in increasing the nation's energy portfolio, it also aids "Big Coal", "Big Utility", "Big Gas Pipeline", "Big Renewable", "Big Hydropower", "Big Solar", "Big Wind", and every other "Big" energy related entity you can think of. But most importantly, all this aid to "Big Energy" will obviously find its way into the coffers of "BIG RAIL." And since when does someone have to have served in the Military in order to be Commander in Chief or to serve in Congressional military panels? What a load of rubbish. Yes, we've lost over 2000 of our military personelle in Iraq and Afghanistan, that prospect was made clear to all when this action was started. All but a few Democrats signed on to this action, having had the exact same access to the exact same intel. I find it appalling that these exact same people who voted for the war are now claiming that they opposed it all along. I also find it disgraceful that all you leftist *Americans* who also gave at least tacit approval for the war are now trying to weasal out of that commitment, based on the psychotic notion that you all actually believe the lies and slander you are directing toward Bush. "Tell a lie long enough, and it becomes the truth" is your new motto, and it is telling that you would borrow that motto from Adolf Hitler and the ***. It is also telling that everytime there is a military death in Iraq, it adds fuel to your cause. Your side gains by the deaths of American soldiers in Iraq, so in that vein you have another common interest with the terrorists besides a hatred of Bush. But here is the stupidist statement I have ever seen. Quothe Big Boy "When we leave, the bombings will stop." If we pull out now, the bombings will only increase, because the terrorists mentality draws it's strengths from our actions of weakness. That is why Al Qaeda gained strength during the reign of Clinton, he would just lob a few cruise missles into the desert, and then convince the American people that all was hunky-dory. What he was telling Al Qaeda was that America would not commit ground troops to stop them, and that emboldeded them all the more. One thing is undeniably true: If Clinton had dealt forcefully with the terror threat instead of trying to appease them, 9-11 never happens. This is why this nation can never again make the mistake of electing a spineless modern day Democrat or a so-called "moderate" Republican to the nation's highest office.
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