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Railroads dealt setback in bids for one person crews.

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Posted by samfp1943 on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 1:36 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by zardoz

QUOTE: Originally posted by wabash1

all i have to say is it dont matter. most all the conductors i have get on the engine and go to sleep. i have been working on my rest with no days off . i have nodded off running and have stood up and run the train to stay awake. while the conductor is sleeping. i look at it this way im not the baby sitter if they cant stay awake and do thier job or wake up and fight for thier job then let them do away with it. its dangerouse out there now with the fatige . it aint going to get any better soon

Try my solution:
Wait until the conductor is sound asleep, and you're drifting along in the 3rd or 4th notch. Quietly pick up the wrench, slowly unlatch the rear door so you can get out fast, then hold down the independent bail-off for about thirty seconds.

Then, when the time is right, very quickly and in sequence first toss the wrench so it makes a big noise when it lands, then immediately or at the same time release the independent, open the back door and run out yelling and/or swearing like you're about to hit something. I can almost guarantee the conductor will be awake most of the rest of the trip.

THIS story deserves a place in the annals of "Unforetable Tales". You just have to hope that the unlucky crew member has access to a fresh shet of "skivvies" or clean clothes, 'cause, there will be a need for them after that experience![}:)][}:)]

Sam

 

 


 

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Posted by zardoz on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 2:11 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by samfp1943THIS story deserves a place in the annals of "Unforetable Tales". You just have to hope that the unlucky crew member has access to a fresh shet of "skivvies" or clean clothes, 'cause, there will be a need for them after that experience![}:)][}:)]
Sam

Never had one mess themselves (that I know of), but I sure did p*ss off a few conductors by doing it. My answer: TELL THE TRAINMASTER. For some reason, none of them ever did.

Another solution, albiet a slightly less dramatic one, was one I would use for "first-time offenders" Again, I would wait until the conductor was sound asleep, then pick up something less drastic than the wrench such a water bottle or something like that. Then I would assume the ZZZ position (feet up, hat over eyes, pretending to be snoring) then toss the water bottle such that it wakes up the conductor, but not too violently. Soon he would notice that I seemed to be asleep also, and usually would get so freaked out that they would stay awake most of the trip after that (and I would frequently see them checking on me to be sure I was still awake)[}:)]
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Posted by DPD1 on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 2:13 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jh3449

Every time this issue comes up I see the same cost versus safety arguments, but one thing I seroiusly hope someone can tell me is what the railroads plan to do when a one-man "crew" on a single track main breaks a knuckle a mile back in the train two or three hours from the nearest block truck. Are we just going to shut down the railroad for several hours? A knuckle weighs 72 pounds. Even if some super-human engineer is going to walk a mile in the ballast with a knuckle in his back pocket, how does he make the coupling and restore the air to the rear of the train? If you break a coupler, how does a one-man "crew" set out the car?
Most of the class 1's are running pretty close to capacity now. Taking one man off every crew start will save a lot of money, but tying up the mains has got to be very costly.


I assume they would probably have some sort of 'quick response' mobile support... Of course that would be from a contracted third party or something, but it would still cost money. When it comes to saving money, company officials always seem to be good at using the minus sign, but conveniently ignore the plus sign, when it concerns their plans for "cost reductions". If they could figure out a way to do it, I think they'd have one guy sitting in a room with 100 computer screens around him, running every train on the whole system. And he would be nonunion of course.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 10:53 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by equinox

so tell us antigates
why the heck are you here in this forum?
is this how you enjoy your alleged retirement (probably got fired)
by sitting at your computer and acting like a know it all and making fun of railfans as you visit the railfan site?
why dont you just go away and let us poor losers have our fun ?


Hey, I am a railfan too. I just think that there are 2 sides to this issue, and the gung ho 'over the top" pro railroad employee side of this debate is being a little close minded to reality.

I don't believe that concern for safety is the biggest issue here, I think job security is, and safety is being advanced as a specious argument.

if you read some of the insensitive vitriol written in other threads here about when cars bypass crossing gates and get hit (the "I wi***hose idiots would have lived, so I could kill them" type comments) one doesn't have to look too hard to see that the safety of the public at large is a fair weather friend here, at best.

As far as you accusing me of playing the 'know it all' here, well, that's funny considering if you bothered to read my earlier posts, I clearly stated that I didn't have ALL the answers.

Even funnier that after you make that accusation about me, you turn right around and speculate that I must have gotten fired.

nice to see I am not alone in the "know it all" dept. [}:)]

have a nice day! [8D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 10:55 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by TomDiehl



He likes posting old pictures.


In the context as used, one picture is literally worth a thousand words...LOL..

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