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[quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by richardy TheAntiGates: Okay, I suspect that my description of the CN employee is correct. Happy now?. You are the pot calling the kettle black. My assurances about the CN guy are no different than your assurances the whole story is made up. Where you there? [/quote] Did I say it WAS made up, or that it sounded made up.? There is a difference. You are young, huh? I base my entire opinion upon my suspicion that the kid and his pop were less than 100% cooperative, leading to the conflict of personalities. I've tresspassed on RR property hundreds, if not thousands of times in my life. And encountered dozens and dozens of RR employees, most of the time finding a pleasant conversation,....3 times however, I was asked to leave. I suppose I could have taunted them by retreatimng 15 feet to public property and defying them to mess with me there, but yanno what? I just found it so much easier to simply say "of course, sorry to have troubled you" and then simply left... And then I railfan someplace else for a couple weeks, to break any chain of continuity the RR employee might have. I try to remain mindful that I am visiting "their place" when I go onto private property, and when asked to leave, I treat their request with the same respect I would expect in my own back yard... and specifically do not challenge them by asking where their authority ends (which is what the "public property" defense is, it is a challenge to their authority. "Why fight battles that don't have to be fought?" is my way of looking at it. Which strategy is better? well, in 48 years I've only been ejected 3 times, and not once have you seen me griping about how horribly I was abused. I'll let you decide which is worse. Here is the funny thing, the most recent time i was ejected, (2 years ago) I was near a very busy interlocking , that was next to the main Triple crown yard facility. I had been out there several hours, all over the place, and saw many many things. Countless yard and engine crews MUST have seen me, I'll bet the length of time I was there finally got on somebody's nerves, and they decided it was time for me to go... So, they sent a yard guy all the way out in a truck just to tell me to leave.. Pleasant exchange.....The guy told me I didn't belong there and that his boss wanted me gone. I smiled and appologized for the trouble, agreed to leave, and started walking TOWARDS the yard. He stops me again and asks me why I wasn't leaving, and I replied to assure him that I was,...but my car was next to the yard entry, and I was just headed to my car.. so he just smiled and and drove away. Compare that to this other guys experiance, and you tell me who has a better plan. A lot of this has to do with the way you treat people... "more flys with honey" etc
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