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[quote]QUOTE: <i>Originally posted by BNSFGP38</i> <br /><br />[quote]QUOTE: <i>Originally posted by GP40-2</i> <br /><br />Have any of you seen/riden on Boston's MBTA push/pull operations? <br /> <br />They don't even have a cab car---talk about unsafe for the engineer! On the inbound push operation, the engineer stands (no seat available) for the whole trip in the vestibule of the front car and looks out either the window in the closed center door or the side window of the car. The only controls are the throttle, brake, and spedometer. <br /> <br />On passenger cars, the vestibule IS the crush zone (that is why Amtrak frowns upon passengers standing between cars). I wouldn't want to be an MBTA engineer in that car while hitting a 40 ton semi at a grade crossing. <br /> <br />The passenger seats start right at the front of the car too, so they have very little protection in the push mode either. <br /> <br />With the FRA mandating million pound impact wide noses on freight locomotives, I still can't believe the MBTA gets away with this! <br />[/quote]Ummm.......that is the defeintion of a cab car..........brake, throttle,reverser, speedeo and radio. <br /> <br /> <br />[/quote] <br />That's not a cab-car, that's a streetcar. A sophisticated back-up move at best. How do the MBTA engineers put up with that? I wouldn't. <br /> <br />Years ago on the Pennsy they had a commuter operation in South Jersey that was along those lines. A standard P-70 coach was equiped with a headlight, whistle, and a back-up brake valve at the train door on the end. But it was the trainmen's duty to man that end on the reverse move. The throttle operation remained on the engine with the enginemen. <br /> <br />Mitch
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