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BNSF power short?
Posted by eolafan on Monday, November 21, 2005 5:09 PM
Wow, check our www.railpictures.net and look at photo number 126001 and you will see a Z train with a GP30/GP60B/SD9 lashup as power![:O]

I never thought I would see this kind of power combination on a Z train in 2005. Is BNSF that short of power these days?
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 21, 2005 6:55 PM
That's because the BNSF Railway can't keep it's own Power on it's own Rails.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 21, 2005 8:49 PM
We always get a little short on power this time of year. Those old units are turds, granted, but they still move the freight and thats all the Co. cares about.
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Posted by trainboyH16-44 on Monday, November 21, 2005 9:13 PM
Whatever moves your freight, I just wish I had seen that!
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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 6:23 AM
Almost all the freight through here has the "old" engines on the head end. 70's, 9's and newer are reserved for coal. I love to see freight because I know I will see older engines. They seem to get the job done and pull freights as long as coal trains!

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Posted by CopCarSS on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 6:59 AM
Hot dog...somebody caught that lash-up. I was driving on Jericho Rd. when I saw that, and told my sister we had to go chase it (she understood).

Of course, since we were on a short errand, I didn't have the camera. I always keep a Canonet QL 17 with a roll of Provia 100F in my car, but alas! my car was in Denver, and my sister has no such practices.

Oh well, maybe I'll see some more dinosaurs today while I'm out with Carl. BTW, the SD9 was #6101, if anyone cares.

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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 7:12 AM
Chris - YES! I checked my sheets and we have had #6101 through here! It hung around here through the summer months!

Mook!

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 2:15 PM
Have seen quite a few ex-ATSF GP60Ms leading Z, Q, and S trains on the northern transcon. Looking a lot like the 1980s, when BN and Santa Fe both dabbled with using four-axle power on high-priority intermodals.
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Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 3:00 PM
Welcome to Christmas Rush and Peak Traffic Season . (and desparate dispatchers)
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 3:55 PM
C'mon Mud. Dispatchers are cool, calm and in control and never make moves outta desperation. You would never see a DS make a desperate move especially when a crew is going DOL.........
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Posted by chad thomas on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 4:20 PM
BNSF is power short, then I say

BRING BACK THE COWLS

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Posted by eolafan on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 5:24 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas

BNSF is power short, then I say

BRING BACK THE COWLS




[#ditto]
Amen brudda, unfortunately I believe they are all either scrapped or in museums...oh, how sad!
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Posted by edbenton on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 6:00 PM
right now is malox time if you are on the power desk. Grain shipping is up other freight is up also. Now throw in UPS cranking up shipments 40-50% a week and you can see why it looks like that BNSF is power short. Remember BNSF has the surge fleet and they are kept for this time.
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Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 6:19 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by edbenton

right now is malox time if you are on the power desk. Grain shipping is up other freight is up also. Now throw in UPS cranking up shipments 40-50% a week and you can see why it looks like that BNSF is power short. Remember BNSF has the surge fleet and they are kept for this time.


I imagine that Mooks has already seen the surge fleet leave Lincoln by now.
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Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 6:22 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ironken

C'mon Mud. Dispatchers are cool, calm and in control and never make moves outta desperation. You would never see a DS make a desperate move especially when a crew is going DOL.........


Guess you don't see all those operating department godzillas breathing down their necks and second-guessing every move either![:D]
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Posted by arbfbe on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 7:47 PM
Of course there is the BNSF policy of hauling failed units across the country for a week or more at a time before they set them out to be repaired. It is unbelievable how many units stay dead in a consist to go to Interbay before they turn the unit around to haul it back dead to KC. What a waste of horsepower and capital investment.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 9:09 PM
Mud, I was just being a wise-guy. In reality, I know that the chiefs call most of the shots. When I do get resentful is when I get ahold of a smarta<< DS. When they are cool, I will bust my butt to keep their RR clear. When they are jerks, it's work per rule time. Airtests become lengthy when you inspect cars down to the grab irons....as per rule.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 3:12 AM
EMDX GP38's working the Cherokee sub locals from Tulsa........they put one on the ground Monday that tore out the main track..........boy did that cause excitement on the radio. Normally all I hear is track warrants for the maintainers and the locals, since the Cherokee is CTC. But the radio came alive when this happened, the dispatcher pretty much made contact with all of the trains West of Springfield heading to Tulsa, fortunatly for him, many were already stopped holding in a siding somewhere. I knew it was a busy line, but he must have talked to 20 trains.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 8:40 AM
BNSF must be very busy because the UP has been very slow around here.
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Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 9:12 AM
As big muddy said - BNSF is running the wheels off their trains. Ah - makes me so happy!

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Posted by edbenton on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 9:28 AM
Tell me about it I just saw an EB stack train with a GP30 a gp35 and a sd 45-2 as its power not a Dash-8-9 to be seen anywere
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Posted by canazar on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 10:16 AM
I spent Saturday morning Williams Arizona by the big BNSF crew change on the the Trans Con. All dash 9's on mostly intermodal stuff. I got to see around a dozen or so trains. There were a few vistors on the line, a few from NS, and I thought I saw a CSX, but still Dash 9's. Except for one treat, a steel coil train came through with 5 SD40's pulling the grade like no one'ss business.

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Posted by spbed on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 10:52 AM
How do you know that for fact? Somebody in the power dept of the BNSF tell you that? In my last trip to the joint UPRR/BNSF lines in California I DID NOT see one BNSF loco on the UPRR however I did see 1 UPRR loco on the BNSF. That is after seeing way over 100 trains. Where does your info come from concerning your post? What facts do you have to back that up?

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Posted by Rodney Beck on Thursday, November 24, 2005 6:37 AM
All railroads today are running power short and are running everything they can get their hands on reguardless of power hours. The leaseing companys are going nuts trying to keep up with demand.

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Posted by joegreen on Thursday, November 24, 2005 9:31 AM
I saw that stack train with BNSF 2966 that night.I also saw an eastbound stack that day with a GP15-1 in the lead with a GP38 and a GP35 for the second and third engine.It isn't uncommon to see all GP's on a stack train, it happens alot on the Aurora Sub.

The day before I saw a hot Z train with 4 SD40-2's.
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