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[quote]QUOTE: <i>Originally posted by 440cuin</i> <br /><br />I know lots of examples of deisel freight that was electrified when Denmark electrified their main line from Sweden to Germany. The fisrt generation of electrics locos in the 80's have 7000hp but weigh 80 tons and can't even get a loaded "moronic" 750meter long freight started, (I dont realy think short trains are moronic realy) so then they double headed the trains. 14000 hp just to move 2000 ton trains. One 3000 hp GM deisel had no problem exept for emisions in the long tunnel. Most freight trains today are electric now, but most freight and mail now moves by truck.[/quote] <br /> <br />Obviously the moron who bought wrong loco should be promptly fired. 3000 hp 6 axle electrics also exist... <br /> <br />Also - short trains are not moronic (who said so?) - the limit is moronic. <br /> <br />BTW - sweden-denmark-germany traffic is now pulled by these locos <br /> <br />http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/dk/electric/EG/pix.html <br /> <br />86 mph, 6500 kW (~8600 hp), 120 tonnes, can run dual voltage and pull about 400 kN of tractive effort. <br /> <br />[quote]QUOTE: Many passenger trains are deisel multipal unit trains so the electric locos are expensive surplus. They don't need them for passenger trains and they can't pull the freights, they also cannot run through into Germany or Sweden. They may soon be getting old and haven't realy had the careir that was intended for them;-( [/quote] <br /> <br />Actually DMUs are used on local runs. ANd the locos will get bought real quick, retroffited with traction control/AC motors and run somewhere - be it France, Poland or Norway. Noone throws away good equipment. <br /> <br />[quote]QUOTE: My point though is that I am in favour of electrification, but it has to be done right and the risks are high, the costs are high so politics enter it all if the government pays for some of it. A railroad should also only electrify if it realy needs it, not just because it is perceived as better. Right now the North American freight railroads have too many other things to spend their efforts on.[/quote] <br /> <br />Very true :) I'am personally in favor of anything that <br />1. Works <br />2. Is cheap <br />;)
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