train vs cherry picker

[Anonymous]

CSX coal train hits construction equipment north side of Evansville In. Monday 10/3. One fatality and 2 injured from the cherry picker,engineer injured by flying glass.Engine damaged on operator side.UP engines in use.Who pays for damage on loaned equipment?

[TomDiehl]

Depends.

If the accident is found to be the fault of the construction company, then they pay the damages, regardless of the owner

If the railroad is found to be at fault, then you'd have to go back to the run-through-power or lease arrangements between the railroads in question. But it would usually be the operating railroad.

[coborn35]

WAIT!!! Why would the engineer be hurt by flying glass? All new locomotives should have FRA standard 223 glazing which makes the windows un-shatterable.

[edblysard]

No, it is shatter resistant, not bullet proof or un breakable...

Ed

[coborn35]

Oh, so shards broke off onto the engineer?

[Junctionfan]

I thought they used Plexi-Glass.

[icmr]

I posted a topic about this the day it happend.

http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=46494

The UP engine was an SD90MAC.



ICMR

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[CSXrules4eva]

QUOTE: Originally posted by coborn35

WAIT!!! Why would the engineer be hurt by flying glass? All new locomotives should have FRA standard 223 glazing which makes the windows un-shatterable.

I've always wondered what FRA 223 or another number glazing ment, now I know. I see it all the time on Septa's Silverliners in the cab in big black letters above the engineer. I thought it had to do with communications or something to that nature.

I do wonder, how the engineer got injured my shattered glass, I'm guessing something of considerable size must of came through the windsheild or the side window, to cause "glass" damage to the engineer. I also wonder if the glass on the side windows is just as thick or is it thiner than the windshiled glass. On cars, and trucks that is ususally the case. I don't know how it is for locomotives.

Well yet again I have to send out my blessings to the people and their families involved in this incident. God Bless.

[Anonymous]

We have DOT Level 3 Safety glass in our armored trucks. The entire truck is rated for .44 Magnum. I've seen it after an accidental discharcharge of a .45 (probably some low power, definately inexpensive round) from about 3 feet away. Spiderwebbed the nearest sheet, and that was about it. Though, we are a bit more mobile, and less powerful, as a locomotive.

James

[edblysard]

Max, exactly how many train accidents have you been involved in?
Ever had a 6" piece of oil well drilling pipe come through the nose of your locomotive?
If the arm of the cheery picker hit the front windshield, it would bust the "glass" which is actualy a laminate of glass and poly carbon film...the side windows are somewhat thinner.
Both break, but not in shards, they are designed to "bead up" just like an automible windshield...its quite possible that the engineer did get injured, after all, he sits only a foot or two away from the front glass and the beads do have sharp edges.

Ed

QUOTE: Originally posted by coborn35

Oh, so shards broke off onto the engineer?

[Anonymous]

Engineer injured by glass according to local tv news.Pictures showed severe damage to operator side of cab at windshield level.Thats all i know.