Tyco Sharknose

[Anonymous]

I know that "Tyco" in today modeling isn't anything to talk about, but I was just wondering something. Why did they make a "Sharknose" in Burlington Northern Paint scheme when they didn't own any. At lease to my knowlede they didn't. If they (BN) did, I would sure love for someone to confirm it. Why I am asking? Because this is the line I'm running and my cousin came in the house with one. I asked him where did he get that junk from although it looked good but I told him that it's not prototype. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm not. I told him the only lines who own these "Baldwin RF-16" was D&H and PENSSY. Someone correct me if I'm wrong

[Anonymous]

Welcome to model railroading where anything is possible.

Take a look at IHC.. they make a 4-6-4 for the B&O.. I dont think that railroad owned any.. but if a customer likes it they will buy it.

Cheers.

[Anonymous]

The BN did not have sharks but more than just PRR and D&H had them. You can add to that list B&O, EJ&E, NYC, and Monongahela. Some sharks were RF16s and some DR4-4-1500s.

[chad thomas]

If my cousin showed up at my house wanting to run Tyco trains on my layout I would have to take him out back and kick his [censored]. (sorry,had to be said)

Your right BN never owned a "shark". But most people that would by Tyco products will not know the differance anyway.

BTW- this might be more suited to the Model Railroad forum.

[adrianspeeder]

I like the Tycos.

So what RRs got the sharks origionally, and which got em second hand?

Adrianspeeder

[nanaimo73]

DR-4-4-1500
EJ&E 2 A, 2 B
PRR 34 A, 34 B

RF-16
B&O 19 A, 13 B
NYC 18 A, 8 B
PRR 72 A, 30 B

[martin.knoepfel]

Not to forget the demonstrators that ran in Baldwin livery. Perhaps even on BN's predecessors.

BTW: is there any model of a B-shark available?

[TomDiehl]

Of course the Baldwin Locomotive Works (Later Baldwin-Lima-Hamilton) went out of the locomotive business LOOOONNNGG before the merger that created the BN. The last two went out of service in 1978, but one saw occasional service thru 1982. The last I heard, they were stored at the Minneapolis, Northfield and Southern.

The only HO scale B Unit I remember seeing is the one made by Tyco back in the '50's when the bodies were still die cast zamac. These occasionally show up on Ebay and go for about $50 or more. I think Stewart also made an A Unit, but not sure about the B.

[espeefoamer]

QUOTE: Originally posted by nanaimo73

DR-4-4-1500
EJ&E 2 A, 2 B
PRR 34 A, 34 B

RF-16
B&O 19 A, 13 B
NYC 18 A, 8 B
PRR 72 A, 30 B

Monongehela bought some second hand from NYC.Two of these went to the D&H.

[Murphy Siding]

I have a sharknose SP in orange daylight colors! Don't know what brand, I collect-don't seem to have time to run them.

[Train Guy 3]

QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas

If my cousin showed up at my house wanting to run Tyco trains on my layout I would have to take him out back and kick his [censored]. (sorry,had to be said)

Your right BN never owned a "shark". But most people that would by Tyco products will not know the differance anyway.

BTW- this might be more suited to the Model Railroad forum.

Tyco's work great in the scrap yard.

[Anonymous]

Actually, the B&O did have 4-6-4s. They were all experimentals with water-tube fireboxes, and were not duplicated. And none of them looked like the model . . .

Old Timer

[jimrice4449]

The demonstraters went to th EJ&E. I don't know who was the lucky recpient of them when the J got rid of them.

[jimrice4449]

As for boosters, I don't recall Tyco making them, but then I generally don't recall where I parked my car in the Walmart lot, so take that for what it's worth. Rocco made As and Bs that were marketed by (old)Model Power. Ran really great until the plastic centers on the wheels slipped off of the metal tires. I saw a few PRR Sharks before my family moved from Chicago and fell in love w/ them. I mickey-Moused some chasis from Athearn components and have ABBA or ABA shells for B&O, PRR and NYC.
I believe there's a wholesaler in NY or NJ that's revived them although, w/ Rocco going belly up I don't know how long they"ll be araound.

[nanaimo73]

The four demos that went to the EJ&E were later sold to the B&O.
1205 and 1216 are stored unserviceable indoors in Escanaba, Michigan.
They had operated on the Michigan Northern and on the E&LS.

[Anonymous]

E R Models (who I think were an importer for Roco US-outline models) made a Sharknose A-unit - probably the best currently available (the drive system is excellent - big can motor, flywheels, diecast frame, all wheel drive and pickup). I think this must be an upgrade over the old Model Power version as mine doesn't seem to have plastic wheel centres (there's a plastic insulating bush between wheel and axle though). It looks pretty good running with a P1k C-Liner (both NYC - I'm claiming that it has the correct MU system fitted to work with other locos rather than Baldwin's own-brand MU system, modeller's license is a wonderful thing...).

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by martin.knoepfel

Not to forget the demonstrators that ran in Baldwin livery. Perhaps even on BN's predecessors.

BTW: is there any model of a B-shark available?

They may have ran on BN predecssors, but not in BN paint scheme. And yes there is some Shark nose B unit out there. Try Ebay

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by TomDiehl

Of course the Baldwin Locomotive Works (Later Baldwin-Lima-Hamilton) went out of the locomotive business LOOOONNNGG before the merger that created the BN. The last two went out of service in 1978, but one saw occasional service thru 1982. The last I heard, they were stored at the Minneapolis, Northfield and Southern.

The only HO scale B Unit I remember seeing is the one made by Tyco back in the '50's when the bodies were still die cast zamac. These occasionally show up on Ebay and go for about $50 or more. I think Stewart also made an A Unit, but not sure about the B.

That's an interesting point. BN ran out of Minneapolis. Maybe this is where Tyco said Hummmmm???? Bu I never saw one in BN paint scheme

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by rdganthracite

The BN did not have sharks but more than just PRR and D&H had them. You can add to that list B&O, EJ&E, NYC, and Monongahela. Some sharks were RF16s and some DR4-4-1500s.

Yes your right. I forgot about those lines.

[chad thomas]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Train Guy 3

QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas

If my cousin showed up at my house wanting to run Tyco trains on my layout I would have to take him out back and kick his [censored]. (sorry,had to be said)

Your right BN never owned a "shark". But most people that would by Tyco products will not know the differance anyway.

BTW- this might be more suited to the Model Railroad forum.

Tyco's work great in the scrap yard.

Yep....I've got several in mine, along with an old Bachman or two.[8D]

[oltmannd]

Why did Tyco do a BN shark? Because they could!

And, don't forget the passenger sharks (BP20s ) that PRR had.

[Train Guy 3]

QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas

QUOTE: Originally posted by Train Guy 3

QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas

If my cousin showed up at my house wanting to run Tyco trains on my layout I would have to take him out back and kick his [censored]. (sorry,had to be said)

Your right BN never owned a "shark". But most people that would by Tyco products will not know the differance anyway.

BTW- this might be more suited to the Model Railroad forum.

Tyco's work great in the scrap yard.

Yep....I've got several in mine, along with an old Bachman or two.[8D]

I like Bachman... well there little hand car atleast.[:D]