Originally posted by nanaimo73 Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:14 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed Probably saved the ATSF from becoming another fallen flag. BNRR should thank whomever for the PRC or they to may have bit the dust. [:o)][:p] Originally posted by nanaimo73 Another fallenflag? I would of thought the ATSF LA- Chicago Transcon would of been enough for them to survive? Or was this a attempt to keep pace with the UP mergers of CNW and SP? Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:21 AM Anybody know how many jobs they were ably to eliminate purely from ecomomies of scale/duplicity of effort ? Reply Edit chad thomas Member sinceJanuary 2005 From: Ely, Nv. 6,312 posts Posted by chad thomas on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:37 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by Heartland Flyer Another fallenflag? I would of thought the ATSF LA- Chicago Transcon would of been enough for them to survive? Or was this a attempt to keep pace with the UP mergers of CNW and SP? More like the other way around. When BN + ATSF were trying to merge, the UP tried to steal the ATSF away from the BN. After that failed and the BN & SF merged, they went after the SP. The CNW had been under UP controll for some time and wasn't really a factor in the last round of mergers. Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 1:19 PM The actual merger took place 9/22/95. It was not until 1998, when all labor agreements were negotiated, that both rrs began operating as one. My first day on the rr in '98 just happened to be the day yd operations at Kan City were combined together. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:56 PM The old ATSF mainline was and is a thing of glory, but let's not lose sight of the fact that the Chicago-to-Cameron (w. of Galesburg) stretch is now pure CB&W in heritage. That's what is now called the "Southern Transcon." The Streator-Chillicothe-Galesburg stretch that used to be mainline is now just the Chilli sub. Amtrak follows the Sou. Transcon too, which is why trains stop at Mendota and not Streator. Reply Edit Murphy Siding Member sinceMay 2005 From: S.E. South Dakota 13,569 posts Posted by Murphy Siding on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 10:04 PM After a merger, one would expect the railroad to sell off or shut down some redundant lines and facilities. Has BNSF done much of that? In my part of the country, (backwoods,so to speak , as far railroads are concerned) south eastern S.D., the only noticable difference has been that the locomotives now come in many colors other than Cascade Green. We now see Cascade Green, Bluejackets,Warbonnets, and half a dozen shades of orange. Thanks to Chris / CopCarSS for my avatar. Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
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QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed Probably saved the ATSF from becoming another fallen flag. BNRR should thank whomever for the PRC or they to may have bit the dust. [:o)][:p] Originally posted by nanaimo73 Another fallenflag? I would of thought the ATSF LA- Chicago Transcon would of been enough for them to survive? Or was this a attempt to keep pace with the UP mergers of CNW and SP? Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:21 AM Anybody know how many jobs they were ably to eliminate purely from ecomomies of scale/duplicity of effort ? Reply Edit chad thomas Member sinceJanuary 2005 From: Ely, Nv. 6,312 posts Posted by chad thomas on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:37 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by Heartland Flyer Another fallenflag? I would of thought the ATSF LA- Chicago Transcon would of been enough for them to survive? Or was this a attempt to keep pace with the UP mergers of CNW and SP? More like the other way around. When BN + ATSF were trying to merge, the UP tried to steal the ATSF away from the BN. After that failed and the BN & SF merged, they went after the SP. The CNW had been under UP controll for some time and wasn't really a factor in the last round of mergers. Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 1:19 PM The actual merger took place 9/22/95. It was not until 1998, when all labor agreements were negotiated, that both rrs began operating as one. My first day on the rr in '98 just happened to be the day yd operations at Kan City were combined together. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:56 PM The old ATSF mainline was and is a thing of glory, but let's not lose sight of the fact that the Chicago-to-Cameron (w. of Galesburg) stretch is now pure CB&W in heritage. That's what is now called the "Southern Transcon." The Streator-Chillicothe-Galesburg stretch that used to be mainline is now just the Chilli sub. Amtrak follows the Sou. Transcon too, which is why trains stop at Mendota and not Streator. Reply Edit Murphy Siding Member sinceMay 2005 From: S.E. South Dakota 13,569 posts Posted by Murphy Siding on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 10:04 PM After a merger, one would expect the railroad to sell off or shut down some redundant lines and facilities. Has BNSF done much of that? In my part of the country, (backwoods,so to speak , as far railroads are concerned) south eastern S.D., the only noticable difference has been that the locomotives now come in many colors other than Cascade Green. We now see Cascade Green, Bluejackets,Warbonnets, and half a dozen shades of orange. Thanks to Chris / CopCarSS for my avatar. Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
Originally posted by nanaimo73
QUOTE: Originally posted by Heartland Flyer Another fallenflag? I would of thought the ATSF LA- Chicago Transcon would of been enough for them to survive? Or was this a attempt to keep pace with the UP mergers of CNW and SP?
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