Black Cowboys Rappin to "Play Chicken With The Train"

[Anonymous]

!st off, I am NOT a racist, or a bigot. Was listening to CMT, when a black cowboy started Rapping a country song " I Play Chicken With the Train".
I sincerely don't know which direction to start ranting and raving in. Anyone out there in railroad cyberspace care to comment?[:(!][:(!][:(!]

[CSXrules4eva]

Yes I do his cd it's called locomotion and it's done by Cowboy Troy. Interesting isn't it?//

[Anonymous]

Sarah, you know me from the Diner, so you know my views on subject. I did not listen to song in depth, but the chorus definately caught my attention. If you have listened to the song at length, can you inform us as to why the tag line is PCWT. This is all we need the youth of America listening to. Live video games. Only you can't press restart, as we all know tie goes to the train. Willy

[gabe]

Yeah,

You got to watch what you let kids listen to these days. My parents grew up with Bugs Bunny and Willey Coyote playing with sledge hammers and sticks of dynamite--look how they turned out!

To say nothing of the Stooges . . . .

I wonder how many people know Simon & Garfunkel's Mrs. Robinson was a song about marital infidelity, or what Penny Lane was a reference to?

Gabe

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by gabe

Yeah,

You got to watch what you let kids listen to these days. My parents grew up with Bugs Bunny and Willey Coyote playing with sledge hammers and sticks of dynamite--look how they turned out!

To say nothing of the Stooges . . . .

I wonder how many people know Simon & Garfunkel's Mrs. Robinson was a song about marital infidelity, or what Penny Lane was a reference to?

Gabe

Mrs Robinson was about maritial infedlity? I thought is was about Jackie Robinsons Mother and Joe Demagio aka Mr Coffee

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by gabe

Yeah,

You got to watch what you let kids listen to these days. My parents grew up with Bugs Bunny and Willey Coyote playing with sledge hammers and sticks of dynamite--look how they turned out!

To say nothing of the Stooges . . . .

I wonder how many people know Simon & Garfunkel's Mrs. Robinson was a song about marital infidelity, or what Penny Lane was a reference to?

Gabe

psst - what was Penny Lane a reference to ? I always thought it was just a street in .....England?

[csmith9474]

I would have never known what color the cowboy was until it was mentioned. Thanks.

[locomutt]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Peterson6868

QUOTE: Originally posted by gabe

Yeah,

You got to watch what you let kids listen to these days. My parents grew up with Bugs Bunny and Willey Coyote playing with sledge hammers and sticks of dynamite--look how they turned out!

To say nothing of the Stooges . . . .

I wonder how many people know Simon & Garfunkel's Mrs. Robinson was a song about marital infidelity, or what Penny Lane was a reference to?

Gabe

Mrs Robinson was about maritial infedlity? I thought is was about Jackie Robinsons Mother and Joe Demagio aka Mr Coffee

Maybe you need to go back and listen to those S & G songs again.
Or possibly listen to a few more of theirs;America,Richard Cory,
plus a few others,especially "Sounds of Silence".

[gabe]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Peterson6868

QUOTE: Originally posted by gabe

Yeah,

You got to watch what you let kids listen to these days. My parents grew up with Bugs Bunny and Willey Coyote playing with sledge hammers and sticks of dynamite--look how they turned out!

To say nothing of the Stooges . . . .

I wonder how many people know Simon & Garfunkel's Mrs. Robinson was a song about marital infidelity, or what Penny Lane was a reference to?

Gabe

Mrs Robinson was about maritial infedlity? I thought is was about Jackie Robinsons Mother and Joe Demagio aka Mr Coffee

Not that you need to watch the movie to understand this, but for clarity sake:

Rent the movie "The Graduate." That will explain it all.

Gabe

P.S. This is also the reason that Joltin Joe Dimaggio felt that the song's reference to him was a personal insult.

[gabe]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

QUOTE: Originally posted by gabe

Yeah,

You got to watch what you let kids listen to these days. My parents grew up with Bugs Bunny and Willey Coyote playing with sledge hammers and sticks of dynamite--look how they turned out!

To say nothing of the Stooges . . . .

I wonder how many people know Simon & Garfunkel's Mrs. Robinson was a song about marital infidelity, or what Penny Lane was a reference to?

Gabe

psst - what was Penny Lane a reference to ? I always thought it was just a street in .....England?

Mook,

It is a reference to a street in England. "Working women" have been known to be found on that street . . . if you catch my reference.

Gabe

[Hugh Jampton]

no mate, ya got it all wrong like,, Penny Lane (L18) was near where John Lennon & Paul McCartney grew up, there was a church on the roundabout where Paul & John first met, it was never associated with ladies of the evening,, you're thinking of Lime Street.

[CSXrules4eva]

RIRR80 I'm sorry I'm unable to answer your question because, I haven't really listend to the song in depth, mabe next time it comes on I will listen to it in depth. When I first heard it I thought it was pretty good. I was actully going to buy his cd a couple of weeks back.

Gabe I know exactly what your talking about. I have something else to add on to kids listing to stuff on the radio and on tv. What I don't understand is why would the government issue parental advisory on cds that dealt with cuss words and vulger content. When we have groups like NSYNC (that don't have parental advisory warning on them) singing about bangin with this and that girl. They also show on most of their videos young girls dressing sluty with thongs hanging out their pants doing butt dances. Even on the Disney channel that's suposed to be for kids they show 12 year olds french kissing the boy ot girl they had a crush on. This in most ways is subliminal messages that kids pick up and model themselves after. I should stop here before I go into another topic. lol

[gabe]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Hugh Jampton

no mate, ya got it all wrong like,, Penny Lane (L18) was near where John Lennon & Paul McCartney grew up, there was a church on the roundabout where Paul & John first met, it was never associated with ladies of the evening,, you're thinking of Lime Street.

Not to doubt you, but give me an hour or so after I get off work and I can take the time to find where I read this. It was in an interview with Lenon that he gave this inference. My remembering of Lenon's statement was not that "Penny Lane" was the proper name of the street, but it was slang for the above reference.

Perhaps you are right and the interview misquoted someone or something like that? In any event, I will find it and post it for the forum's scrutiny.

Gabe

[Junctionfan]

Are you sure about that song. I have as well as you must have heard storys about playing certain records backwards and you get a message from the Church of Satan nonsense; might be over analysing-might not.

On the topic with title and from what I heard from others, some folks lyrics are totally rediculous. Good example is Snoop Dog, Ole Dirty ......, Eminem.......total garbage and really, I can't see how anybody can see it for any good other then it is teaching folk to be bad is to be cool-not cool at all. I hope that this song won't be anything other then bad choice of words but who knows.

[railfan619]

Have you ever heard of the song long black train. It is sang by josh gracin. I think it is a pretty good song I think.

[edblysard]

Cowboy Troy, part of Big and Rich, who latest hit, "Save a Horse, Ride a Cowboy", might be the best blend of C/W, rock and rap done to date.

Gabe, I grew up on that kind of music, have just about ever album the Beatles did, most of Harrisons stuff, and of course, all the Wings albums.

And am now in the process of replacing them all with C/Ds...no one sells albums anymore, and last time I tried to buy a needle for my turntable, the kid just looked at me with the dumbest expression...

I grew up with Creedence telling me to revolt, the Who..well, being the Who, and Clapton extolling cocaine...the Eagles and their silver spoon, the list goes on and on...but funny thing is, I dont feel the least little bit in the mood to snort, shoot up, or smoke any of this, and I havent revolted to much...

TV had the Roadrunner doing his thing...and Elmer Fudd must have blown Daffeys beak off a hundred times...but I dont throw people off of cliffs, and stick shotguns in peoples faces either.

I would perfer that this song not be made some type of anthem...but I also know kids may listen to crap on the radio, but most of them are smart enough to know better.

Those that arent, well, if songs are enough to influnce them into playing chicken, then there aint all that much you can do for them anyway.
Ed

[adrianspeeder]

Did anyone actually listen to the song? Or just go, "Oh my, I'm gonna post my self righteous rant that people are gonna kill themselves after hearing the song and I can't wait to post it on the forum."

I bought the CD when it came out, and was just countin the days till someone started this thread. While it could be about standing in front of a train, I think it just stands for the stupid things we all do for fun. Weather it be drinking, partying, womanizing, gambling, avoiding the truth, or whatever our bad habits are.

Calm down people and just enjoy the music.

Adrianspeeder

[Anonymous]

OK, judging from the hits on this thread but not many replies, I assuming not many people want to jump in because of the "black" thing. It has nothing to do with race. It has to do with the song. Doesn't it disturb anyone? If it was " Jump off a Cliff", would that be better?
Gabe, Glad you got in on this, you know how I like a good Arguement. Yes I grew up on Stooges, Coyote and RR and knew that you couldn't do those things. It just seems that todays youth has a high percentage of those that can't differenciate between reality and fantasy. We had a case here in town of a 20 year male that played War Games on-line constantly. He went on a binge shooting at houses. The police finally found him in a cornfield in full camo and facepaint. He had his brothers shotgun, fired on police twice and was subdued will reloading. Big news in a small farming community. When arrested all he would give was name, rank and serial number. Still thought he was in games. Three years later in mental health facility he thinks he is POW. Yes this is an isolated case. But it can happen and does. There is a small fringe of society that cannot tell the difference. What disturbs me is in that isolated fringe, there is some people that will hear this and think it is cool, then some poor engineer is going to have to live with the consequences the rest of his life.
Ed- your last line of post says it all, it's just unfortunate that some one else will have to live with it. [:(] Willy

[edblysard]

Bill,
I really don’t think the song, or the games, or the movies are the root cause.
And I wouldn’t sweat the black thing, because what follows applies to every parent, no matter what color their skin is.

I caught a speech by another Bill, Bill Cosby, at Texas Southern University, a predominately black university here.
Went with a buddy, who got the shock of his life...

On of the major themes of Mr. Cosby’s speech was responsibility...black or white, didn’t matter...but he engaged the audience with several questions, that made a few of them quite uncomfortable.

One of his questions was quite simple...
How the heck can you blame anyone but the parents when their kids manage to live an entire alternate life right under their noses, and they are so preoccupied with themselves and their wants as to not know a thing about it?

Why is any kid under 16, walking around the streets, at 11 at night, un-supervised?
And why, as a parent, do you allow you kid to play games where killing people is the goal?

You can’t blame society, schools, or the TV, after all, it’s your TV, you can turn it off is you don’t like what’s on.

You can blame the parents for letting the TV, or the Video games, be the babysitter....

And it’s your kid, your responsibility.

So where the heck are the parents?

He went on to ask how many of the people present every actually sat down and talked with their children, explained on their level what they believed was right and wrong....

Now, this was a racially mixed audience, and an age mixed one, from young teens to grandparents...

He made all but the grandparents very uncomfortable.
They, on the other hand, were almost chocking with glee when he pointed out that if you don’t raise you kids, then no one will...

Now, all that said, I despise most rap, and my kids know this...I don’t like the lyrics, I don’t think the music isn’t really music, and I can teach most morons to rhyme badly....but kids today have their music, just like we did, and are entitled to it...
But I make my kids give me their C/Ds to listen too, and when they ask me to buy one I don’t think they should have, I tell them no...If they want it, they can get a job, or save their allowance, and buy it with their own dime!

They also have access to my collection, which is somewhere around a thousand albums and C/Ds, and several hundred cassette tapes, ranging from classical to the above mentioned "Big and Rich...metal, rock, jazz, CW, blues, some folk, and the oddball song.
How many 6 year olds know the song, "Tie Me Kangaroo Down”?

Mine does.

Point is, if the kids want to listen to this song, they will, either at their friend’s house, or somewhere, anywhere beside at home.

But it is your responsibility as a parent to make sure they understand what the song is about, and if you don’t agree with what it says, make sure they know you don’t, and make sure why you don’t like it comes through loud and clear.

You don’t like what the kid is watching on TV, turn it off and hand them a book…or take them fishing…in the end, the responsibility for your children, and how they interpet the world around them, rest entirely on you, the parent.

So if your kid listens to this song, and decides it sounds like fun, and tries it, then you are not doing your job as a parent.

Ed

[Anonymous]

So true, Ed, so true.

[tup][tup]

[Anonymous]

Ed, that truely is the bottom line, it's just sad that some engineer ( hopefully not some of our friends in here) might have to pay the price because some parents are so involved in "Me, Myself and I"

[doghouse]

So what is Penny Lane a reference to ?

[ValleyX]

Penny Lane is a street in Liverpool, however some of the references may be rather sly, such as the fireman and his "clean machine".

[MP57313]

Haven't heard "Play Chicken With the Train" but this kind of controversy comes up every so often. Can't think of another train song, but how about "I Can't Drive 55" (by Sammy Hagar) This was played before they raised the highway speed limits again. Did it really encourage people to drive over the speed limit? To my way of thinking it was just a song...
Or what about "Earl's In The Trunk" ?

[gabe]

Speaking of Sammy Hagar (i.e. Van Halen before ge got there), isn't it cool that there are two hit songs about Illinois Central passenger trains?

Guthrie's City of New Orleans being the first and Van Halen's Panama being the second, of course.

Gabe

[Anonymous]

You make some very excellent points, Ed! Many parents today are not like they used to be and it is usually their fault for their kids turning out the way they do. My mom had Dr. Phil on once and there was this guy on who loved violent video games and played them all the time with his 5-year-old son. He considered this quality time. You have to wonder about these people.

When it comes to music, what really counts is how it sounds, at least for me anyway. What the artist is singing about isn't nearly important as how the song itself sounds when it comes to your personal preference for music that you enjoy.

In regard to subliminal messges in various songs, they may be there, but to me that doesn't make the song offensive if it isn't obvious. I'm a Beatles fan and have always been under the impression that Penny Lane was about what Hugh Jampton said, not gabe's idea. But, hypothetically speaking, even if gabe's assumption is correct, the lyrics themselves are innocent enough that even if there was some offensive meaning in them, 99.99% of people would never know it. By the way, did you know that when the song Louie Louie first came out that there were acusations made by people that there were subliminal messages and secret sexual meanings behind the lyrics? As ridiculous as that sounds, it's true.

Also, a great deal of rap music probably has lots of dirty things in it, but, to tell you the truth, I can't understand what they're actually saying a lot of the time.

I haven't heard the song I Play Chicken With The Train yet either, but I did get the lyrics off the net if anyone is interested.

[Chorus - Big & Rich]
I play chicken with the train
Play chicken with the train train
Unh huh huh unh huh huh
You know that I play chicken with the train
Play chicken with the train train
Unh huh huh unh huh huh yeah

[Verse 1 - Cowboy Troy]
Hold 'em up! Here we go!
All the hicks and chicks feel the flow
Big black train comin 'round the bend
Gwone kinfolk tell ya mamanem
Chug-a-lugga, chug-a-lugga, chug-a-lugga who?
The big blackneck comin' through to you
Boy you done fell and bumped your head
Uh huh that's what they said
People said it's impossible,
Not probable, too radical
But I already been on the CMA's
Hell Tim McGraw said he like the change
And he likes the way my hick-hop sounds
And the way the crowd screams when I stomp the ground
I'm big and black, clickety-clack
And I make the train jump the track like that

[Repeat Chorus]

[Verse 2 - Cowboy Troy]
From mic to cassette deep into your ear
My voice is your choice that you wanted to hear
Southern boy makin' noise where the buffalo roam
Flesh, denim and bone as you might have known
See me ridin' into town like a desperado
With a big belt buckle, the cowboy bravado
All over the world wide web you'll see
Download CBT on an mp3
Speak clearly what I'm sayin' so you'll comprehend
Hit the net for hick-hop radio, tune in
Rollin' like thunder on the scene
It's kinda hard to describe if you know what I mean
I never claimed to be the hardest of the roughest hard rocks
But I'm boomin' out yo' box
Skills got you jumpin' outch'a socks
From Texas here I come, movin' yo body with a bass kick drum!

[Repeat Chorus]

[Cowboy Troy]
I play chicken with the train
Play chicken with the train train
Unh huh huh unh huh huh
I play chicken with the train
Play chicken with the train train

[Big & Rich]
Unh huh huh unh huh huh you know that

[Repeat Chorus]

[Cowboy Troy]
Huh!
Yeah!
One time!
Get you some of that!

From what I can tell, the song has absolutely nothing to do with playing chicken with trains and the chorus is really only a kind of metaphor.

[adrianspeeder]

Exactly, and it sounds pretty good too.

Adrianspeeder

[CSXrules4eva]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

Are you sure about that song. I have as well as you must have heard storys about playing certain records backwards and you get a message from the Church of Satan nonsense; might be over analysing-might not.

On the topic with title and from what I heard from others, some folks lyrics are totally rediculous. Good example is Snoop Dog, Ole Dirty ......, Eminem.......total garbage and really, I can't see how anybody can see it for any good other then it is teaching folk to be bad is to be cool-not cool at all. I hope that this song won't be anything other then bad choice of words but who knows.

I listen to Snoop Dogg, and Eminem because the beats are good and they way they match up their rimes with the beats sound pretty good to me. Heck this is why I listen to rap. I also listen to death metal and other forms of heavy metal for the same reasons. Also, some of the conotaions they make are down right halarious!!! However, some of the stuff they sing about isn't exactly right and it's defainly not something that should be influencing kids to partake in such activities.