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Larry Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date Come ride the rails with me! There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it...
QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas I've seen it, But only about a year ago. My favorite train movie is Tough Guys, starring SP 4449.[;)]
QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard Larry, Lots of yards have run through tracks, or "by pass" tracks for just such a reason. GCOR 6.27, last line reads... Comply with these requirements until the leading wheels reach a point where movement at restricted speed is no longer required. That point is stated in the timetable of each paticular railroad, and that point might be determined by where the rear is! Note it does not state a specific point, ie twenty car lengths past the yard limit sign, or at MP 1.0...it simply says where restricted speed in no longer required...which will vary from train to train and railroad to railroad, even track to track...down here, if your leaving out of tracks 62 to 57, once your nose is past the yard limit, you can get to track speed...those tracks are designed for that....but from tracks 48 to track 2, you best be under 10, or you will be making a big mess! Most engineers do just what the mudchicken said,,,they have a good idea how long their train is, and have a real good idea how far outside of the yard certain points are, say a tree, (ha ha) or a crossing is know to be 1 mile out...and they act accordingly. Depending on the paticular railroad, the timetable will tell you the speed allowed...and will state to maintain that speed until the entire train has left yard limits... Also note GCOR does not state restricted speed is 20 mph....it say restricted speed is a speed that allows you to stop within 1/2 the visual range of.... but not to exceed 20mph... In english, restricted speed means go slow enough that you dont run into anything, but never go faster than 20mph! And lastly, depending on the train, some SD60s, 70s and a few of the GE Dash 8s can get a train from walking speed to 30mph in just a few car lengths, a lot faster than you would think... Ed
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QUOTE: Originally posted by Dutchrailnut I don't know what choo choo outfit you work but speeds are for entire move.Speeds in yards are generaly restricted speed with a maximum of 15 and 10 trough non interlocked switches. most repair yards are 5 mph and so are locomotive servicing area's
QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard Posted: Today, 08:32:19 GCOR rule book...read the last line of rule 6.27... 6.27 Movement at Restricted Speed When a train or engine is required to move at restricted speed, movement must be made at a speed that allows stopping within half the range of vision short of: Train Engine Railroad car Men or equipment fouling the track Stop signal or Derail or switch lined improperly The crew must keep a lookout for broken rail and not exceed 20 MPH. Comply with these requirements until the leading wheels reach a point where movement at restricted speed is no longer required. 6.28 Movement on Other than Main Track Except when moving on a main track or on a track where a block system is in effect, trains or engines must move at a speed that allows them to stop within half the range of vision short of: Train Engine Railroad car Men or equipment fouling the track Stop signal or Derail or switch lined improperly Once his nose is past the yard limit sign, he's free and clear to navigate! Ed
QUOTE: Originally posted by mudchicken Somewhere there is a roadmaster/MTM out screaming at the operating department (maybe one at Port Robinson needs fired). Yard switches and simple physics (i.e. centripital force) say you do NOT go faster than the calculated speed for the turnout, or you have cars lying on their sides) If that yard has turnout sizes in the single digits (#7 to #9 frogs), 20 MPH is too fast.[V][V][V]
QUOTE: Originally posted by gabe OK, This shows how limited my knowledge is, but the thing I keep thinking of it while reading this post is "does anybody remember the (old) movie "Emperor of the North." It has Earnest Borgnine (sp?) in it as a conductor who hatted hobos and Lee Marvin (I think) as AI. Incidentally, aside from hobo A1, it had an additonal young hobo who was trying to become emperor of the north, and was a real jerk. I think the kids name was Trainfinder22 . . . . Anyway, at one point A1, writes on the station water tower that he is going to ride the evil conductor's train to a certain point. The conductor highballs his train through the yard (in fog no less) in an attempt to make it more difficult for the hobo to jump on the train. The people betting on A1 making the train were shouting how crazy he was; the people betting against A1 was saying how smart he was. It seems vaguely related to our debate. That is one of the first movies I remember watching as a kid, I think I was 6. Gabe
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