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[quote]QUOTE: <i>Originally posted by SteamerFan</i> <br /><br />[quote]QUOTE: <i>Originally posted by driver8</i> <br /><br />What caused the demise of all of the <br />beautiful F and Alco units ? (among others) <br />Save for the modern FP Amtrak locomotives, all of the rest <br />are so similar looking. <br />[/quote] <br /> <br />Simple answer is the same thing that caused the demise of Steam.....Cost. But this time, not the cost to run them, but the cost to make them. In cost saving measures, they decided to cut the amount of metal to shroud the loco to bare minimums. this resulted int he ever popular modern style of boxie Engines (Powered boxcars), where the metal shrouds just barely cover the internals and a cab was an afterthought (or so it seems, just look where they stuck the bathrooms). <br />[/quote] <br /> <br />It was more a change in design that allows not only for easier construction, but much better access for maintenance. The old style units had a girder-type frame just inside the car body - the EMD BL-1 & 2 sheet metal shows this clearly from the outside. The later GPs had much stronger lower frames and center sills, eliminating the need for the girder and the wide car body. Although FP45s have full width bodies, the framing is the same as a normal SD. <br /> <br />The Illinois Railway Museum has a number of E & F units, including the BN Executive E-units. They also have a Santa-Fe FP45. <br /> <br />http://www.irm.org/roster/diesel.html
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